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  1. #1
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    Zzzlol94's Avatar
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    Character
    Miss Hidden
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90

    SE are leaving BLM to rot by giving SMN and RDM even more utility

    Why would anyone choose BLM for anything now? If nothing changes (Which has such a high chance of happening):

    SMN has currently an 80% buff to their raidwide damage buff
    RDM has a ~30-40% increase to theirs.
    SMN then gets a free to use Manaward, TWICE. ON HALF THE COOLDOWN. WHAT?
    SMN can now move close to 100% of the time without DPS loss, even without having Ruin 2 for movement.
    RDM now has a damage reduction AND healing increase cooldown

    What does BLM get? We get a free Xeno every 2 minutes, slightly increased damage in place of Fire, reduced Convert cd and another sharpcast. That's it for single target. It's a whole load of nothing in comparison!

    Meanwhile we also get a nerfed Xeno for some reason, while the one thing we need to counteract SMN/RDM buffs is MORE damage.

    We have lost one unique utility we had, which was Manaward. SMN technically had this with Titan-egi before, but no one used that as it did less damage. Now SMN can just use a 20% Manaward twice in the time we can do it once. Ours is actually worse now since we can only do 30% in 2 minutes, while SMN can do 40% in that time.

    BLM still has no ability to raise, which is STILL the primary reason no progression group will ever accept a BLM into their party if a SMN/RDM of equal skill is available. SE has already shown they don't care about integrity of other jobs, so adding raise to BLM to keep it fair between casters MAKES SENSE.

    Currently, BLM has had barely any buff to damage. Many jobs have gotten very slightly nerfed on potencies, but for BLM to even stand a chance against SMN/RDM with their non-DPS utility, BLM needs to be dealing over 25% more personal DPS just to outweigh these advantages. SE has never been able to understand how to balance casters, but they keep being completely oblivious to what's causing this to happen.

    What I think should rather be done, RDM/SMN should get rid of their non-DPS utility and get rid of their raises. It makes just as little sense for SMN/RDM to have it now as it does for BLM to have it. It doesn't destroy the jobs, it would also even balance out casters much more with melee/ranged, as currently casters are taking over the 2nd melee slot more often than not. Why would you ever pick a 2nd melee, when SMN can move anywhere while dealing all the damage they can, give raid buffs, raise people and shield themselves? Answer: You wouldn't. The balance between the casters will be destroyed with the next expansion if nothing changes.


    First step for Square Enix to fix this issue:


    REMOVE RAISE ON SUMMONER AND RED MAGE.
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zzzlol94 View Post
    REMOVE RAISE ON SUMMONER AND RED MAGE.
    No.

    /10char.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Fryfor's Avatar
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    Character
    Fryfor Small
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Think these jobs are all fine. Gonna ignore that wall of text, sorry. Is this satire?
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  4. #4
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    Character
    Kenrir Amnis
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Considering blm is still chosen when players know the fight over the other two jobs I'd wager you are complaining to just... well, complain.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 10-14-2021 at 02:05 AM.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Character
    Bastilaa Shan
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Black Mage has damage and superior mobility. Quit your crying.
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    Character
    Micela Arzur
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    Why would you choose SAM without ANY raidbuffs or useful utility?! Oh right, the damage is broken... What´s with BLM right now as the only class that can compete with SAM?!
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zzzlol94 View Post
    Why would anyone choose BLM for anything now?
    More damage!
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  8. #8
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Character
    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    This is why all of the jobs are so homogenized now - the second one job doesn't get something another similar job has, the crying starts.
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  9. #9
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    Kesisi Kesi
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 1
    Oh, you again.
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  10. #10
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zzzlol94 View Post
    SMN then gets a free to use Manaward, TWICE. ON HALF THE COOLDOWN. WHAT?
    Feel like I should mention the endwalker SMN shield is a (sizeable) nerf over the one they have right now. 20% of the summoner's hp instead of 30%.

    But, what, did you only just now notice it had one?
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