Will Beastmaster appear in any Endwalker content patches?

[aveyond-dreams]

Fisher has "unique content" in the form of ocean and spear fishing yet we don't call it a limited gatherer. If you think anyone would seriously let a blue mage into a grinding party for old content, I have to question whether you've actually used party finder to unsync old stuff.

If a blue mage tried to meme their way into a Suzaku EX farm, I'd kick and blacklist them on the spot. Limited jobs have a negative name attached to them because they are objectively handicapped and cannot access relevant content in the current expansion, or even content they'd be good at in previous ones. Blue mage can graduate from being called a limited job when it can play with other jobs normally. Masked carnival is a boring slog to get through at best, all for the sake of a raise spell. Other than that, there isn't much going for it.

As for beast master, please if you want to add it just clone WoW's beast mastery hunter instead of making another system that won't survive past 2 weeks. 80/20 rule here. A minority of blue mages who insist on gatekeeping the job and forcing it to be "so special and unique!" that is turning off most of the playerbase should not be the sole voice heard on this matter. More people want to see full jobs than content with as short a half life as blue mage patches.

[MellowMink]

Fisher has "unique content" in the form of ocean and spear fishing yet we don't call it a limited gatherer. If you think anyone would seriously let a blue mage into a grinding party for old content, I have to question whether you've actually used party finder to unsync old stuff.

I use Party Finder for both synced and unsynced content a lot, and I don't always see people have an issue with Blue Mages joining for farm parties, so I'm not sure why you would "have" to question me.

Blue Mage does have unique content that's specific to its job as well, like the carnival fights, blue log challenges, unique achievements, creating your own action list as a subset from a larger set of spells, being able to choose your specific combat role rather than being restricted to just one, and more. Maybe you don't personally like those things, which is fine, but lots of other people do; not everyone likes the same jobs, and while you may not personally like Blue Mage right now, lots of other people like me do have fun playing it.

Sharing feedback is of course fine though as long as you're not directly attacking other players; no job is absolutely perfect and will always have ways that they can be potentially tweaked or expanded.

If a blue mage tried to meme their way into a Suzaku EX farm, I'd kick and blacklist them on the spot.

Well, that seems uncalled for. If you don't want Blue Mages in your party, then specify what roles are allowed when making the party; otherwise, kicking and blacklisting them for your own mistake is pretty rude. If you're not the party leader and don't want Blue Mages in the party despite the leader being fine with them, then will all due respect, go find another party. Kicking someone for harassment despite them not harassing someone is a reportable offense too.

[aveyond-dreams]

And I remain unconvinced that devoting any further resources into this system is a good idea. This seems to be a common theme among people who are really invested into limited blue mage, it’s like the crab bucket analogy where they want to drag others into the bucket with them, despite the fact that being outside the bucket is better.

I use Party Finder for both synced and unsynced content a lot, and I don't always see people have an issue with Blue Mages joining for farm parties, so I'm not sure why you would "have" to question me.

Well, that seems uncalled for. If you don't want Blue Mages in your party, then specify what roles are allowed when making the party; otherwise, kicking and blacklisting them for your own mistake is pretty rude. If you're not the party leader and don't want Blue Mages in the party despite the leader being fine with them, then will all due respect, go find another party. Kicking someone for harassment despite them not harassing someone is a reportable offense too.

I do not believe that you are joining EX farm parties on your datacenter as a blue mage. You can kick anyone from a party for any reason if it falls under a difference of playstyle. If someone wants to make a farm party more difficult because they want to use their weak flashy spells in ilvl 400 gear instead of a full job in ilvl 490-520 gear as is standard for most farm parties, they’re gone.

In any case, the fact remains that limited jobs along with the other controversial decisions made during that time period were some of the biggest stains in the history of this game besides 1.0. Rather than doubling down on these mistakes, they should seek to improve them instead of causing even more controversies.

Resources in this game are extremely finite as they have pointed out time and time again-and any resources spent on turning classic FF jobs into mini games should be redistributed to literally anything else. There's not much else left to say, thus I am content to let this thread fade away.

[MellowMink]

This seems to be a common theme among people who are really invested into limited blue mage, it’s like the crab bucket analogy where they want to drag others into the bucket with them, despite the fact that being outside the bucket is better.

...Or some people just genuinely like current Blue Mage content and want to see it expanded with newer expansions and updates, such as with a set of Shadowbringer instance logs and unlockable spells among other things, which seems likely to happen sometime after Endwalker's release. Just because you don't personally like it doesn't mean that someone else is wrong for not liking it; not everyone likes the same jobs and there's plenty of other content for you as well. I don't personally like certain pieces of optional content in the game, but that alone doesn't mean that they're necessarily bad if other people enjoy them.

You're of course welcome to share job feedback, which the game developers and designers also encourage, but you don't need to attack other players directly. And again, if you really hate the idea of playing with a Blue Mage during certain Party Finder content, then make the party yourself and prevent that job from joining; harassing other players isn't really called for though.

I do not believe that you are joining EX farm parties on your datacenter as a blue mage.

I don't usually play as Blue Mage in extreme or other farming content, but I occasionally have or witnessed others doing it; unless the party leader prevents the job from joining in the first place, there's usually not a problem with it.

In any case, the fact remains that limited jobs along with the other controversial decisions made during that time period were some of the biggest stains in the history of this game besides 1.0.

This isn't an objective fact; it's a subjective opinion. You're certainly entitled to that subjective opinion and your own personal set of gameplay preferences, but somebody else isn't wrong for say preferring the flexibility with how spells are acquired and selected between for multiple role layouts.