Has anyone quit healing?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I can agree on astro getting really cool new stuff but what takes this joy away is lady and king is rng so you can’t rely on it at all in any situation. Sleeve draw gone and only 1 redraw per card making it really rng if you can actually get astrodyne always every 90 seconds making it also a inconsistent. What makes sage for me interesting is rather that it rewards you for pressing the 1 button atleast. When you play other healers if you do press the nuke button more because optimization you just do dmg with sage you actually get heal “rewards” also having a dash on a healer is just cool.

Then I suppose the bright side is I don’t have to relearn everything. Apply Kardia and just pretend it’s a ‘controlled’ (translation: press & forget) fairy embrace; and bigger personal numbers.

On AST matter though, at least they took away the RNG from Divination—their big partywide button. They have that sort of ‘dedicated party buffer’-fantasy in my head so knowing that there’s a chance I couldn’t consistently buff my party optimally was actually iffy (Sleeve Draw fixed this from 5.3 and beyond but probability of RNG screwing us is still there. It’s just uncommon though).

Astrodyne on the other hand, I’m not bothered seeing the RNG aspect attached simply because it doesn’t affect the rest of my party directly—it’s my personal buff.

[Sebazy]

It's okay. I can lend you my shoulder. You don't have to fake it. I've seen how hard you tried. You no longer have to. Lot's of people here are of one mind. We all know how you feel. You can let it out. Don't feel shame.

What ever you say sir

At the end of the day I just vote with my feet. Back when healing was genuinely interesting and rewarding, I’d be pugging, reprogging, PFing and generally trying my hand at random things in between tiers (tanking Titan as WHM whilst it was still current content was one example, getting a T13 clear in duty finder on EU was another favourite of mine). Don’t believe me? Look at how many pug clears of A12S I have.

Compare that to now where SE have sucked out the complexity and finesse of healing. Now it just boils down to how little can I heal so I can maximise my number of Glares per turn.

That’s just not remotely enjoyable to me and it shows in the amount I pug and help other statics between tiers (spoiler, I don’t anymore because it’s just not fun. E8S just sucked the enjoyment out of the game for me).

Enjoy your little bubble of denial. Hopefully the one button gameplay reality doesn’t pop it too soon.

[Aword3213]

Enjoy your little bubble of denial. Hopefully the one button gameplay reality doesn’t pop it too soon.

Wow, somehow my replies show my love for 1 button gameplay.

You should be a detective

[Aword3213]

It’s just this place became a place of bitterness after years and years of neglecting us. After the first time you think they just derped when they ignored the healer community and skipped slides. But after all these years they still tread us like 3 grade humans. I mean I wouldn’t feel so bad if they at least talk with the healer community and tell us what vision they have for healer that we don’t understand (and I can assume a lot of people here play healer more active then all of them in the job design team do at this point) and then come in here after a unlucky early leak and nuke all the threads but don’t want to make some time to have a talk about changes and ideas/feedback. Like my static co healer changes from sch only after 5 year in ff 14 to sage because she feels betrayed and left in the dust. The same with me. I was a whitemage main since arr and in stormblood my ape brain realized after some time that white is just the inferior version to astro in every single way. And astro atleast has some identity even after the card change and lore cripple move they made. I just despise this wow job design approach, not everything needs to be easy and brain dead to be accessible and every healer can be easy to play early and new player friendly but should become more difficult to master getting too max lvl. No clue why whm should be the baby healer for all the time on every lvl.

Does it justify the reason to call people white knight just because the answer to the topic is different than most?

Agree on WHM part though

[Wilford111]

I haven't quit in the least, healing is fun to me.

"No you're supposed to be angry about the job design "

Sorry, I'm not.

Look you have my sympathies for SCH being sorta shafted since the release of Shadowbringers but it and both the other healers are still fun to play in my opinion.

[Axxion]

Does it justify the reason to call people white knight just because the answer to the topic is different than most?

Agree on WHM part though

well. if you take the time and look at brans post history. you can see why some may call him a white knight.

But for the topic. I have not. Would i like more healing mechanic for them? yes. Im interested to see how ast, and sage feels

[Dogempire]

I haven't quit in the least, healing is fun to me.

"No you're supposed to be angry about the job design "

Sorry, I'm not.

Look you have my sympathies for SCH being sorta shafted since the release of Shadowbringers but it and both the other healers are still fun to play in my opinion.

Tbf healing is fun if you do it as a one-off thing, but not as a main role

As a main role it's the most boring thing you can do unless you have the skill level of a damp potato or you just enjoy the monotony

[Aword3213]

well. if you take the time and look at brans post history. you can see why some may call him a white knight.

Making personal attack based on post history when his reply was straight to the topic.

Such tradition needs to be preserved for all generations to come

[ty_taurus]

Making personal attack based on post history when his reply was straight to the topic.

Such tradition needs to be preserved for all generations to come

In all fairness I wouldn't necessarily call this a "personal attack." I try not to make a habit out of memorizing specific people's attitudes on the forums, but from conversations that happened yesterday, he indeed does come off as someone who does berate others for specifically not liking healing or criticizing it which I don't think is fair. On the flip side, it's also not fair to tell him he's wrong for liking the role either, not to mention if you're going to respond to a message, you should respond to that message and not what someone has brought up previously. Realistically, it would do this forum a lot of good for everyone, myself included, to try and be respectful when responding to others and ignoring more disrespectful posts.

[Axxion]

Making personal attack based on post history when his reply was straight to the topic.

Such tradition needs to be preserved for all generations to come

Please under stand where i am coming from. For me, when someone is coming off brazen an not trying to understand where people are coming it will deter me from ever listening to them. To me they are using emotion and not thinking logically. When you have response to like "go and play a different game" that's not helping or adding anything to the discussion. An All that means is that you rather dwindle the player base when they don't like something.

Remember the story of 1.0? That is the only time that going to happen.


For me, i have to wonder why is they are acting like this. Which means i have to see there previous points to see where they are coming from at the most.

Now are people wrong for liking a class/role at all. No.

Do everybody have a voice and do they want to be heard? Yes

A quote from the dodge ball movie. "opinions are like buttholes, everybody has ones but they do not think there stinks"

If everybody take the time, do there research and try to understand where people are coming from. things like that wont happen.