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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Then lets make it crystal clear, once it for all:

    NO to this "feature".

    Because:
    1. SE doesnt add immersion breaking glamours or gearsets. That means, any combination of gear doesnt break immersion either.
    2. it doesnt improve performance or loading times, because characters still need to be loaded.
    3. its needs to fix old systems first before adding new features/options/etc. Otherwise its a waste of time and resources.
    4. glamours never affect your gameplay. They are just glamours.
    5. hopefully, SE still ignoring these forums.
    6. there is no problem at all.


    Feel free to "argue" about my points, but I wont continue talking to a wall.

    I leave this picture of some NPCs (found in the Gold Saucer) here:
    I have to ask why exactly do you have such a disdain for such an option. I get you listed your reasons but at the core it seems far deeper then what you have listed. Just seems more personal then anything.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I have to ask why exactly do you have such a disdain for such an option. I get you listed your reasons but at the core it seems far deeper then what you have listed. Just seems more personal then anything.
    Apparently they need to be validated in game and want people to wear what they want but then made a passing but very obvious statement about headscarfs as a negative.

    So the person is a look at me person and vouches for choice yet when it comes to headscarfs its a no (to which was brought out of no where mind you), yeeeeeeeeeee this person should be ignored in game and irl.
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Apparently they need to be validated in game
    Quite a few of the arguments against this option (or hell the DISCUSSION of the option itself) do seem to come from a place of being perturbed that someone somewhere might not see their character how they want them to, which seems like a pointless thing to get emotional about when mods and the game's own graphical settings exist. What if someone is playing with reshade or bad light settings and that makes their character look less than optimal on that person's screen? Do they break out in a cold sweat? What about lewd mods? You'd think with that visceral level of hatred for this idea that they'd never leave their inn room or something.

    Yes I'm being a bit hyperbolic but that seems to be the flavor of disagreement folks are offering right now.

    I can understand making your character look the way you want and that it is personal expression but I do that for me alone and not to impress people, especially in a multiplayer online game where you know someone may be seeing something different than you.
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  4. #164
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    The jokester in me from earlier aside. Put the glam off option in. Then add a glam on option that when activated removes said player from a glam off players view and vice versa. Immersion is not ruined and people get seen how they want to be seen. If options are so good then both sides should get and option.
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 09-29-2021 at 10:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    The jokester in me from earlier side. Put the glam off option in. Then add a glam on option that when activated removes removes said player from a glam off players view and vice versa. Immersion is not ruined and people get seen how they want to be seen. If options are so good then both sides should get and option.
    This works until you have to party with that player. I'd love to have people turn themselves off in the overworld from my view. That would be great.. but if I need to play an instance with them that option quickly becomes an actual hindrance. The logical extension of that being not to allow those two to party together... but that might increase queue times undesirably.
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    This works until you have to party with that player. I'd love to have people turn themselves off in the overworld from my view. That would be great.. but if I need to play an instance with them that option quickly becomes an actual hindrance. The logical extension of that being not to allow those two to party together... but that might increase queue times undesirably.
    Glam on could be automatically disbaled when entering a duty. Its only a visual option would not stop parties from being formed.
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    Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Glam on could be automatically disbaled when entering a duty. Its only a visual option would not stop parties from being formed.
    And then that person has to be seen differently than they would wish.

    If people would have no problem with possibly being seen differently within an instance and just not being seen in the overworld.. I would have no issue with that implementation.
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    And then that person has to be seen differently than they would wish.

    If people would have no problem with possibly being seen differently within an instance and just not being seen in the overworld.. I would have no issue with that implementation.
    Thats exactly how it would be only in a party would both sides chosen view be disabled. When going solo it would be enabled, also means fewer player models being loaded on screen for those players.
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Thats exactly how it would be only in a party would both sides chosen view be disabled. When going solo it would be enabled, also means fewer player models being loaded on screen for those players.
    Again if BOTH sides are disabled you are defeating the purpose of the original feature. Do you understand that some people who want this feature want it working in dungeons and instances for the specific purpose of not having "weird" glamours in their cutscenes and battles?
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  10. #170
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    I could live with a toggle that disables other player characters during cutscenes, and turns other peoples character while in a dungeon as their job icon. This would be much more difficult to implement.
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