Mentor abuse DC on purpose

[TabrisOmbrelame]

Hello,

I'm here to put a problem into a interessting discussion.

For this whole case, please know that I'm a Mentor.

Today, I encountered an other Mentor, and we tagged in Sephiroth Extrem (Yeah, bad luck). I knew this mentor because he was literraly avoiding the 30 minute penalty by disconnecting on Purpose ! (No DC disrupt symbol was shown).

How do I know that he did this ? Because in a Rathalos Extrem, a few days before, this guy just mocked a newby who obviously boosted his character using the cash shop item as I was explaining how to handle some mecanics on the boss, then Disconnect right after that. We waited, he came back, and disconnect in the second again !

This kind of behavior is unacceptable ! Mentor shouldn't do this, and this is a reason to be banned, if we follow this rules who is in the ToS :

◆Obstruction of play
"Obstruction of play" means all behaviour in general that obstructs another person's game play. Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of obstruction of play:

・Intentional leaving or disconnection
This means obstructing another person's game play by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.

Not only did this guys intentionnaly disconnect, but he also Obstruct 7 people for 5 whole minute at least, and avoid, by disconnection, the 30 minute Penalty given to guys who quit.

Am I the only one to encounter this kind of "Pseudo-Mentor" ?

[DrWho2010]

yeah i've seen this during my mentor runs and during msq roulettes where they didn't get Praetorium. disconnect and hope to get kicked instead of eating the 30 min penalty.

if you feel like reporting them you can do so.

[TabrisOmbrelame]

That's exactly what I did.

As I mentionned above, this is against the ToS. I don't know why I shouldn't report a player who clearly not agree with the ToS.

Of course, this kind of behavior is impacting the "Mentor Image". I've seen too many time sprouts saying to me that they got problem with Mentor being rude with them or not willing to help but just doing roulette in order to get Asterope.

[LittleImp]

The problem is that, while against the ToS, it's essentially impossible to prove that the DC was really intentional and actually fairly issue punishment.

But yeah, I really despise this kind of mentor. I usually apologize to the sprouts in the party on their behalf, and use it as an opportunity to explain a lot of the flaws with the mentor system, and why mentors shouldn't be implicitly trusted.

[Bsrking5]

Cool mentor bashing story bro. I've seen all types of players do it.

[TabrisOmbrelame]

The problem is that, while against the ToS, it's essentially impossible to prove that the DC was really intentional and actually fairly issue punishment.

Actually, As I got two people who witness the behavior on Rathalos Ex and we were trying to talk to him when he came back but disconnected with no response and no DC logo, and 6 Other on Sephiroth Ex, with the same "No DC logo" thing, I can assure you that the disconnection he did wasn't random at all. Strangely enough, he didn't got DC on easy content like 8 man raid or Dungeon when I encountered him, but only on situation where it was difficult because of the sprouts or the content (Like Sephiroth Ex who is known to be a real pain to do.)

... why mentors shouldn't be implicitly trusted.

This is the biggest problem of being a Mentor... The image of this suffered quite a lot due to player who don't do the "Mentor" job correctly, just wanting the Asterope mount for the show and being toxic because they absolutely don't care about sprouts...

[Caurcas]

Sounds like they had better things to do.

[Sotaris]

Sounds like they had better things to do.

More along the lines they are lazy and expect to get into easy low level content for their mentor roulette and can't do their own job as a mentor.

[Caurcas]

More along the lines they are lazy and expect to get into easy low level content for their mentor roulette and can't do their own job as a mentor.

Eh, you want to do EXs with randos then go to PF. Can't blame a person dipping from an unwinnable situation.

[Skivvy]

Eh, you want to do EXs with randos then go to PF. Can't blame a person dipping from an unwinnable situation.

Then they should just suck it up and accept the 30 minute penalty for leaving vs. being a baby about it and trying to force the group to vote dismiss them.