The Healer changes for Endwalker are good

[Yhisa]

People are still missing out important information which was said livestream

All healers Aoe damage got a "white mage" treatment ....this means astrologian, scholar, sage AoE skills Gravity, art of war, what ever sage have does somethink like holy stun does

Second they also mentioned ALL healers can now buff party members

At this current stage we do NOT know what the new spells even do all we seen is animations for new spells, and a "small" information for each healer

I have watched the stream and seeing scholar saying "we got sort end of the stick' u haven't...because alot have changed for healers and we WONT know until we see the tooltips

I'm curious to what art of war and gravity will do for Aoe , I'm curious what the new buffs are, I'm also curious why assize was NOT shown on the white mage trailer (people missed that the whm never use assize)

There is alot more going on with the healers and we have to wait until ALL tooltips is shown before making blind judgements


At this current time....we can only discuss sage since that's the only tooltips we have at this moment

[Allegor]

Two buttons during downtime is a good thing. I want to play soraka and yuumi not zed who can heal and has lots of mechanics. You healers need to be grateful you won’t have to deal with the pain of openers and rotations made by the balance etc. You get to just play the game and enjoy healing when needed and broil in the meantime it’s stress free. And let’s people casually heal content instead of everything being hardcore.

Aside from the very flawed, borderline troll LoL comparison, here's the thing - only WHM is the 'Soraka' while the others are idk, Karma and Zoe. They're all effective in their own way but there's no reason to have 3 Sorakas

[Acece]

People are still missing out important information which was said livestream

All healers Aoe damage got a "white mage" treatment ....this means astrologian, scholar, sage AoE skills Gravity, art of war, what ever sage have does somethink like holy stun does

Second they also mentioned ALL healers can now buff party members

At this current stage we do NOT know what the new spells even do all we seen is animations for new spells, and a "small" information for each healer

I have watched the stream and seeing scholar saying "we got sort end of the stick' u haven't...because alot have changed for healers and we WONT know until we see the tooltips

I'm curious to what art of war and gravity will do for Aoe , I'm curious what the new buffs are, I'm also curious why assize was NOT shown on the white mage trailer (people missed that the whm never use assize)

There is alot more going on with the healers and we have to wait until ALL tooltips is shown before making blind judgements


At this current time....we can only discuss sage since that's the only tooltips we have at this moment

Oh boy can't wait to press aoe once a tier and press a buff once every 2 min

[ExcogEnjoyer]

Two buttons during downtime is a good thing. I want to play soraka and yuumi not zed who can heal and has lots of mechanics. You healers need to be grateful you won’t have to deal with the pain of openers and rotations made by the balance etc. You get to just play the game and enjoy healing when needed and broil in the meantime it’s stress free. And let’s people casually heal content instead of everything being hardcore.

1. This isn't league of legends.

2. Why are openers and rotations bad?

3. You can just play white mage, leave the skilled classes alone.

[Karthunk]

I hate the idea of conforming to the lowest common denominator this way because it directly gimps everyone who wants something more than the barest of bare minimums by outright denying them the option to do more. Why? There absolutely should be more to do when healing isn't needed, whether that's more direct DPS, buffing, or other forms of utility. If you don't like that then just don't do it. If you're a casual player, then you won't be touching raids anyway so why does it matter if you intentionally underperform? Take all your DPS buttons off your hotbar and play the way you want, then let the rest of us that want to do more be able to do so.

This is the new reality of how things will be moving forward; the devs stated this point blank in the stream. If you don't like the current play style or changes coming to the healers I would look at a different "main". I would say quitting the game would show them your displeasure but the login queue for my server has only gone up over the past three months, I'm not sure they would notice.

[Acece]

1. This isn't league of legends.

2. Why are openers and rotations bad?

3. You can just play white mage, leave the skilled classes alone.

Can we please stop putting whm down to own these trolls, all healers should have a high skill celling not just the ones you play.

[Boizinho]

People are still missing out important information which was said livestream

All healers Aoe damage got a "white mage" treatment ....this means astrologian, scholar, sage AoE skills Gravity, art of war, what ever sage have does somethink like holy stun does

Second they also mentioned ALL healers can now buff party members

At this current stage we do NOT know what the new spells even do all we seen is animations for new spells, and a "small" information for each healer

I have watched the stream and seeing scholar saying "we got sort end of the stick' u haven't...because alot have changed for healers and we WONT know until we see the tooltips

I'm curious to what art of war and gravity will do for Aoe , I'm curious what the new buffs are, I'm also curious why assize was NOT shown on the white mage trailer (people missed that the whm never use assize)

There is alot more going on with the healers and we have to wait until ALL tooltips is shown before making blind judgements


At this current time....we can only discuss sage since that's the only tooltips we have at this moment

Both status effects and AoE are more or less worthless in high end content. Stun is the least worthless, so if they're going to give Art of War a Blind effect or something, just don't even bother. BLU has Bad Breath, which applies almost every status effect in the game at once to enemies in a cone, and it's literally not even on my BLU hotbar.

Holy is great in dungeons because it prevents damage, meaning it's one of the only opportunities that WHM is allowed to 'heal' and DPS at the same time. But SCH and AST can already do that anyway while doing more damage. Also, again, in any content that matters AoE is basically irrelevant. Oh there was that one time in E1S where it spawned the two mobs. And Holy was still a DPS loss compared to Glare. Whoops.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

I hate the idea of conforming to the lowest common denominator this way because it directly gimps everyone who wants something more than the barest of bare minimums by outright denying them the option to do more. Why? There absolutely should be more to do when healing isn't needed, whether that's more direct DPS, buffing, or other forms of utility. If you don't like that then just don't do it. If you're a casual player, then you won't be touching raids anyway so why does it matter if you intentionally underperform? Take all your DPS buttons off your hotbar and play the way you want, then let the rest of us that want to do more be able to do so.

I like raiding I hate rotations and openers as a healer.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

1. This isn't league of legends.

2. Why are openers and rotations bad?

3. You can just play white mage, leave the skilled classes alone.

I think they breed a toxicity when you are forced into some random rotation/opener to make a raid group happy for dps reasons that are miniscule

[RyuDragnier]

I think they breed a toxicity when you are forced into some random rotation/opener to make a raid group happy for dps reasons that are miniscule

The raid groups I've been in don't really care too much when you fail your opener on a healer, just so long as you're doing damage and keeping people up and running.