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    IllyaPrisma's Avatar
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    The Healer changes for Endwalker are good

    Personally, everything I've seen so far has made me incredibly optimistic about healing in the next expansion. I haven't really seen any hype yet surrounding healers, and I believe there is plenty of reason to be excited.

    Here are things that I noticed that peak my interest:

    WHM is seen with 2 stacks of Thin Air
    Displacement/Totem Healing
    Holy/Misery Upgrade/Additional Skill

    AST has Lord and Lady of Crowns returning as their own ability
    Lord causes the enemy to flinch, signifying that it is likely AoE Damage
    Lady causes what appears to be a healing affect on the Reaper, signifying AoE Healing
    Divination is no longer tied to Seals
    Seals provide AST a self buff
    Meteor Shower also appears to be a damaging ability

    SCH is being given an in-combat party-wide movement increase
    It's funny to meme about, but the actual potential of this skill is incredible
    I agree that SCH drew the short straw on flashy abilities however.

    SGE is able to heal their designated target by dealing damage.
    This is something I'm probably the most excited about, since this could be a platform for experimenting with Healers dealing damage in order to heal. (unlikely)

    The numerous requests and complaints about complexity for Healer damage rotations has clearly been answered with a firm "No" on several different occasions, most recently in the 9/17 Live Letter. There are plenty of other things to be excited about with regards to Healing and we still hardly know anything.
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    Be careful with your optimism in this section of the forum. The natives are busy running around with torches and pitchforks.
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    While the changes themselves are good in a vacuum, the problem is that they're changes that don't actually address the design contradictions of healers and the game itself, nor do they fix the issue of healers having only 2 buttons to press during downtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcogEnjoyer View Post
    While the changes themselves are good in a vacuum, the problem is that they're changes that don't actually address the design contradictions of healers and the game itself, nor do they fix the issue of healers having only 2 buttons to press during downtime.
    In essence, this.

    SE may be saying 'No' to improving healer DPS/downtime options, but the developer can be wrong. And in this case, SE really is shooting themselves in the foot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcogEnjoyer View Post
    While the changes themselves are good in a vacuum, the problem is that they're changes that don't actually address the design contradictions of healers and the game itself, nor do they fix the issue of healers having only 2 buttons to press during downtime.
    Two buttons during downtime is a good thing. I want to play soraka and yuumi not zed who can heal and has lots of mechanics. You healers need to be grateful you won’t have to deal with the pain of openers and rotations made by the balance etc. You get to just play the game and enjoy healing when needed and broil in the meantime it’s stress free. And let’s people casually heal content instead of everything being hardcore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Two buttons during downtime is a good thing. I want to play soraka and yuumi not zed who can heal and has lots of mechanics. You healers need to be grateful you won’t have to deal with the pain of openers and rotations made by the balance etc. You get to just play the game and enjoy healing when needed and broil in the meantime it’s stress free. And let’s people casually heal content instead of everything being hardcore.
    Soraka in league has to hit her q to heal herself and the put a big regen when they heal, yuumi also is supposed to use her missle and jump out and auto attack for mana and a shield. you're really playing league wrong if all you're doing is healing lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Two buttons during downtime is a good thing. I want to play soraka and yuumi not zed who can heal and has lots of mechanics. You healers need to be grateful you won’t have to deal with the pain of openers and rotations made by the balance etc. You get to just play the game and enjoy healing when needed and broil in the meantime it’s stress free. And let’s people casually heal content instead of everything being hardcore.
    I hate the idea of conforming to the lowest common denominator this way because it directly gimps everyone who wants something more than the barest of bare minimums by outright denying them the option to do more. Why? There absolutely should be more to do when healing isn't needed, whether that's more direct DPS, buffing, or other forms of utility. If you don't like that then just don't do it. If you're a casual player, then you won't be touching raids anyway so why does it matter if you intentionally underperform? Take all your DPS buttons off your hotbar and play the way you want, then let the rest of us that want to do more be able to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I hate the idea of conforming to the lowest common denominator this way because it directly gimps everyone who wants something more than the barest of bare minimums by outright denying them the option to do more. Why? There absolutely should be more to do when healing isn't needed, whether that's more direct DPS, buffing, or other forms of utility. If you don't like that then just don't do it. If you're a casual player, then you won't be touching raids anyway so why does it matter if you intentionally underperform? Take all your DPS buttons off your hotbar and play the way you want, then let the rest of us that want to do more be able to do so.
    I like raiding I hate rotations and openers as a healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Two buttons during downtime is a good thing. I want to play soraka and yuumi not zed who can heal and has lots of mechanics. You healers need to be grateful you won’t have to deal with the pain of openers and rotations made by the balance etc. You get to just play the game and enjoy healing when needed and broil in the meantime it’s stress free. And let’s people casually heal content instead of everything being hardcore.
    1. This isn't league of legends.

    2. Why are openers and rotations bad?

    3. You can just play white mage, leave the skilled classes alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcogEnjoyer View Post
    1. This isn't league of legends.

    2. Why are openers and rotations bad?

    3. You can just play white mage, leave the skilled classes alone.
    Can we please stop putting whm down to own these trolls, all healers should have a high skill celling not just the ones you play.
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    Last edited by Acece; 09-24-2021 at 04:53 AM.

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