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    Quote Originally Posted by Euphares View Post
    If SCH provides tools that the other healers do not and cannot be found anywhere else, than it has value and a strong identity.


    Currently, no other healer in the game can provide the same amount of mit with the same uptime. Noct Bubble is considerably worse than soil and worse than its Diurnal counterpart, considering regen ast still gets the mitigation while noct doesn't get the regen unless it channels.

    Healing for more stops being a perk when its understood that every healer has an abundance of healing, but no content requires all of it. Mitigation is what groups value as it nullifies the need to GCD heal which is why SCH is currently favored.

    Art of War is considerably better than Gravity as well in fights where healer damage actually matters (TEA for example.)


    Furthermore, Noct Ast is being removed entirely and we still have no idea what Sage will be like entirely but we do know that it is an offensive healer who heals through offense. Which is nowhere near treading upon Scholar's territory or identity. So SCH essentially has zero competition for its niche (which is intended.)



    Which brings me back to my original point; currently the job is strong and being picked frequently > it receives little changes and the new healer has a different identity > logic would dictate that SCH will continue to have a strong identity and excel at what it is good at > it doesn't need a rework.


    Again the only point that I can agree with in regards to needing an overhaul is the pet AI because its currently really broken, but I have to reiterate that this has nothing to do with Scholar's identity or design.
    The only thing SCH provides that other healers do not have is chain and fairy, every other healer has access to shields, healing, and mitigation. That's it. And fairy can technically just be seen as a regen.
    Obviously no other healer can provide the same amount of mitigation because like I said Sacred Soil is essentially two additional jobs worth of mitigation compared to WHMs 1 or none depending on what level you're playing on.
    So again what identity? That was scrapped when they removed DoTs you pick SCH because WHM has no mitigation.

    There's no reason to even compare Sacred Soil to other classes mitigation since the skill itself is the reason you pick SCH. Obviously it blows everything else out of the park.

    Yes mitigation is what groups value which is why WHM which either has 1 or none is not picked over SCH, or AST in meta comp. But just like healing mitigation stops being a perk when you no longer need to put it on a chart.
    Additional mitigation that doesn't stop you from getting 1 shot is the same as additional healing. SCH is favored because WHM has no mitigation and low movement and there are 2 healer slots and 3 healers to pick from.
    Art of War is arguably the best AoE of the 3 healers in relevant content which is fair because it's the least fun healer to play and requires the most weaves.

    Noct AST being removed doesn't effect the fact SCH is probably going to be replaced largely by SGE.
    Noct AST being better than SCH was just an unfortunate situation but the meta comp is diurnal AST with SCH and now with SGE coming out it will most likely be AST & SGE because SCH's mitigation like I said while good is not that good.

    These are the identities that the current healers have:

    WHM: Big & easy dps & heals.
    SCH: Fairy & Sacred Soil
    AST: Cards & Free casts.
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    Last edited by Nethereal; 09-20-2021 at 07:44 AM.

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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...