RIP MNK 1.x - 5.x

[Sqwall]

You're talking over most people's heads. This is something majority of people either can't, or most likely, don't want to acknowledge because their false sense of class difficulty based on positional and asthetic that in the end amount to something artificial.

At best, it's artificial, at worst it's unnecessary.

NIN has mudra. Good design
SAM has Sen. good design
DRG has blood and eye. Good design
MNK had GL…oh wait. MNK has chakra…a 1-2 button damage dump. Hardly compelling. Ok, MNK has positionals….that’s is thing. If positionals are compelling gameplay then every melee should have 6 to deal with. Oh wait…..none of the other jobs care enough to ask for positionals because they are a stupid way to give gameplay to a job. Especially when that job centers itself around the lazy design.

Blitz will be MNKs gameplay. Like mudra,Sen, dragon blood/eye and I can’t wait

[Leonus]

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Yea, I think this is a better direction overall than what has been happening in prior expansions. It's not like they got rid of all positional either, only got rid of two.

[IruruCece]

I’ll be waiting patiently for your arrogant retort.

It is staggering how little you contribute to literally every Monk thread you have ever participated in, and I shudder to imagine your thoughts on any other job in the game.

[Sqwall]

It is staggering how little you contribute to literally every Monk thread you have ever participated in, and I shudder to imagine your thoughts on any other job in the game.

Shudder away. I sleep soundly.

[Andy_T93]

This has become a bit aggressive everyone has their opinions on what makes a class good or bad or what the identity is, for me the identity of monk has always been more tied to speed than positionals

The being said I don't technically mind positionals HOWEVER i'm not a fan of having my own DPS tied to the gameplay of others. It's fine saying positionals are great but they aren't great when you have a tank who constantly spins the boss or who drags him somewhere that the rear is inaccessible. So while positionals themselves are fine any DPS mechanic that has the potential to limit my DPS through no fault of my own is a big no from me

[IruruCece]

The being said I don't technically mind positionals HOWEVER i'm not a fan of having my own DPS tied to the gameplay of others. It's fine saying positionals are great but they aren't great when you have a tank who constantly spins the boss or who drags him somewhere that the rear is inaccessible. So while positionals themselves are fine any DPS mechanic that has the potential to limit my DPS through no fault of my own is a big no from me

It's a multiplayer game, part of the challenge is working with other players. Report tanks for griefing if they refuse to stop spinning the boss, it works, and they get an un-eraseable mark on their account that can lead to a permaban. And honestly, report any player who griefs like this, because they bring down the quality of the gameplay experience for everyone else. I don't care how long they've played, I don't care how much time they've put into their character, they deserve the ban and can start all over again for being a jackass.

Speaking frankly though, that's a dungeon/alliance raids problem/normal raids roullette, which aren't really designed to test anyone's skill. If you're worried about parses during that content... you're probably stressing over absolutely nothing. Even the most uncoordinated groups can faceroll through If you're actually doing endgame content, a tank that is purposefully griefing their DPS isn't going to last very long in the group, and if they happen to be the person who started the group, people will leave it rather than deal with their BS.

Removing something from the game just because there's a set of players who will purposefully work to ruin the experience of others is not and should never be the correct solution for any job. Ban the players who are abusing others.

[Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai]

With GL gone (assuming it's now gone-gone), at least we'll see our animations properly now and maybe explains why we'd have a 90s "have some extra auto attack" button perhaps?

Greased Lightning traits are still around, Allow me to elaborate on that... Base GCD is 2.50, as we all know.

Greased Lightning I = 5% = Monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.40
Greased Lightning II = 10% = Monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.25
Greased Lightning III = 15% = Monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.12
Greased Lightning IV = 20% = monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.00

As such, the Greased Lightning traits are for certain still there, there is no doubt about that... how do I confirm this? When they did the Live Stream in the live Letter, to show off the new Monk game-play, their Monk had a GCD of 1.97, which means that they had Greased Lightning IV and almost +0 Skill Speed.

[Andy_T93]

It's a multiplayer game, part of the challenge is working with other players. Report tanks for griefing if they refuse to stop spinning the boss, it works, and they get an un-eraseable mark on their account that can lead to a permaban. And honestly, report any player who griefs like this, because they bring down the quality of the gameplay experience for everyone else. I don't care how long they've played, I don't care how much time they've put into their character, they deserve the ban and can start all over again for being a jackass.

Speaking frankly though, that's a dungeon/alliance raids problem/normal raids roullette, which aren't really designed to test anyone's skill. If you're worried about parses during that content... you're probably stressing over absolutely nothing. Even the most uncoordinated groups can faceroll through If you're actually doing endgame content, a tank that is purposefully griefing their DPS isn't going to last very long in the group, and if they happen to be the person who started the group, people will leave it rather than deal with their BS.

Removing something from the game just because there's a set of players who will purposefully work to ruin the experience of others is not and should never be the correct solution for any job. Ban the players who are abusing others.

I never once suggested I think they do it purposefully I have met nothing but nice people in this game and don't believe people would do that. But if you have a tank who has never played a DPS role and perhaps don't understand the importance of positionals then they can't be blamed for not understanding. And I certainly wouldn't be petty enough to report them.

It doesn't matter what content i'm running. I want to do the best job that I can. Sounds like you re advocating purely from the PoV of endgame content but I would like to perform to the best of a jobs ability at all times and unfortunately with positionals they are sometimes out of the players hands

[Kabooa]

Monk needed a new mechanic to replace Greased Lightning and I didn't anticipate that coming back once the timer was removed.

As a long time advocate for something like Blitzes as a new mechanic, I'm pretty happy with what the showcase. I'll still wait until the Media Tour and having the tool tips before I give my final judgement but I'm cautiously optimistic at the moment.

I have to say it was incredibly vindicating to see that come on.

It'll probably be a trashfire, but it at least will be one that looks flashy.

[AndieEldritch]

Greased Lightning traits are still around, Allow me to elaborate on that... Base GCD is 2.50, as we all know.

Greased Lightning I = 5% = Monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.40
Greased Lightning II = 10% = Monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.25
Greased Lightning III = 15% = Monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.12
Greased Lightning IV = 20% = monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.00

As such, the Greased Lightning traits are for certain still there, there is no doubt about that... how do I confirm this? When they did the Live Stream in the live Letter, to show off the new Monk game-play, their Monk had a GCD of 1.97, which means that they had Greased Lightning IV and almost +0 Skill Speed.

Saw that on the other thread, good to know.

Still feels confusing that they would mention it in the way they did. "The gameplay element of stacking Greased Lightning will be done away with - So to compensate for that Chakras will be unlocked at a lower level." as if it was still there. Miscommunication I suppose.