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  1. #21
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    Videra's Avatar
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    Videra Svenay
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    People act like pressing 1, 3 times is somehow vastly different from pressing 1,2,3 when its literally pressing a key 3 times. Yes, what the players want is terrible when they can't figure out that pressing a key = pressing a key.
    Realize that a big part of healer fun used to be managing cleric stance, cooldowns, debuffs and buffs, while having less OGCD heals.

    Realize that healers also had a suite of DPS nukes in 3.X which you used based on available MP, and multiple dots to keep you paying attention during fights.

    Realize that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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  2. #22
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Acece View Post
    Sage is cool. Ast has either an aoe heal or an aoe buff with minor arcana, they also can use div without seals? whm has like, an aoe heal that they can set down like star. sch has... idk? it doesn't have too many actions lol.
    it used 3 seals for divination but they already had 2 of the 3 seals. Looks like King and Quenn is aoe heal or aoe dmg if i saw it correctly. Also more aoe heals and stuff.
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  3. #23
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Character
    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    Realize that a big part of healer fun used to be managing cleric stance, cooldowns, debuffs and buffs, while having less OGCD heals.

    Realize that healers also had a suite of DPS nukes in 3.X which you used based on available MP, and multiple dots to keep you paying attention during fights.

    Realize that you have no idea what you're talking about.
    That would require realizing that "we would like some actual decision-making or choice or complexity in our kits" doesn't mean "We want 123 combos" because they'd actually have to come up with a rebuttal if they didn't keep flailing at that strawman that we just want a second dot and 3 different animations on a single attack.
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  4. #24
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    Roeshel's Avatar
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    Character
    Kael Yoshim
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    The sooner they stop homogenizing and start creating job specific abilities that set these healers apart (dps options can do this...) the better.
    5.0 about forced me from a game I played since day-1. Not sure I can deal with another release that terrible.
    Spamming "Broil" 10,000x a week SUCKS.
    They stopped homogenizing. Only Sage has some sort of dps rotation and the others don't. Uniqueness.

    Scholar had the most dull looking preview. Very depressing for anyone who wanted DoTs back
    White has some water shields to use in between glare spam if they removed the clipping issue.

    The job gauges were not touched for these two jobs.

    Ast will be raid master together with Sage.
    More dps buttons were only reserved for Sage. And their aoe is 1 - 2 something. They even have a leap ability. At least now people can't say that all healers are identical and play the same way.
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  5. #25
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    Rubiss's Avatar
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    Character
    Rubiss Tantegel
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Looking at the SCH job action section again, nothing used Aetherflow or Fairy Gauge, not even Fey's Blessing.
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  6. #26
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Character
    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    Realize that a big part of healer fun used to be managing cleric stance, cooldowns, debuffs and buffs, while having less OGCD heals.

    Realize that healers also had a suite of DPS nukes in 3.X which you used based on available MP, and multiple dots to keep you paying attention during fights.

    Realize that you have no idea what you're talking about.
    Preach. 100% to everything you just said.
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

  7. #27
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    Scholar had the most dull looking preview. Very depressing for anyone who wanted DoTs back
    My thoughts exactly. Super disappointing.
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

  8. #28
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Character
    Yesunova Hotgo
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    My impression is that SGE and AST might have the more interesting stuff.
    SCH and WHM were...ehh. But this is on the trailer impressions.

    But I'm gonna have to see in the morning, I've already stayed up late and it seems they're leaving healer slides to last.
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  9. #29
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    dont you find funny that meele and caster dps have now a omniversal dmg reduce as a debuff and healer do get nothing for that. So dps already have more things too do then healer for keeping aoe dmg down.
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  10. #30
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    Roeshel's Avatar
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    Character
    Kael Yoshim
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    Looking at the SCH job action section again, nothing used Aetherflow or Fairy Gauge, not even Fey's Blessing.
    They might have reworked Recitation into a buff that lets you use all aetherflow actions and fairy gauge actions for free. The new healing ability looks like Indom II and the ST is more like Lustrate but as a shield.

    Broil IV and Glare II seem to be having faster cast times so Ruin II and ED is most likely gone.

    Thin Air might have become an active part of White Mage's gameplay. They used it twice in the job action preview.
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