Cutsence Skipping in MSQ Roulettes, by disconnecting

[ssunny2008]

Report of the offenders.
It does work.

Why should someone get a report?

Castrum has always been a mess. I still don´t know why SE isn´t making solo - content out of it or create a cutszene before and after the whole dungeon. "Please watch those cutszenes" is a terrible game-design and kills the fluent gameplay. No matter if it´s 45mins castrum or 2min cutszene to watch a boss evolving like a pokemon over and over again.
In games like SWTOR you had atleast the option to skip cutszenes AND you could choose between good / bad, which changed the whole dungeon. Not to mention that they never happened mid-fight or 100 times. But the stuff here is just horrible and SE should´ve reworked castrum, when they cutted the ARR-MSQ with SHB.

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The inner castrum is shorter with a german language. If there are 3-4 ppl with this, the bosses are dead while others still watch too.

[Narail]

The inner castrum is shorter with a german language. If there are 3-4 ppl with this, the bosses are dead while others still watch too.

I actually didn't know that. Perhaps I never noticed because my DF language settings? Either way, the end result is the same. The story bosses and enemies are dealt with before other people finish watching their cutscenes. Now, would you say that these people with the german language setting are doing anything forbidden by engaging the enemies before everybodies' cutscenes are over? Usually, it is nice etiquette to wait for everyone to be ready. I can't remember any rule which would enforce that. Disconnecting and reconnecting is obviously not the indended way to play through the instance. I suspect that it isn't "fixable" either because it'd probably require reworking how cutscenes work.

I also don't know if SE counts it as an offense, I'm not even sure under which rule.

[ItMe]

I actually didn't know that.

It's significantly shorter in Japanese too.

[Kirika-]

Why should someone get a report?

So, its OK to break the rules then?

[ssunny2008]

So, its OK to break the rules then?

Which rules? There are none. It´s not even a real exploit and SE can´t determine if someone disconnect on purpose or not, unless they´re writing it in the chat.
Sometimes ppl just disconnect or a leaver is getting replaced with someone else via MSQ or Mentor-roulette. Of course it would be kind to wait then, but who does that? Ppl rush castrum anyway and in 9/10 cases newbies will die on the way, because they don´t know what´s going on.

SE just needs to stop to force ppl to wait for some cutszene-watchers or that we´ve to watch cutszenes over and over again. Problem solved.

[MrMagic]

Which rules? There are none. It´s not even a real exploit and SE can´t determine if someone disconnect on purpose or not, unless they´re writing it in the chat.

*disconnects during every cutscene

Nothing sus there.

[Melorie]

I find it quite amusing that some people really have the patience to do that. Disconnecting, changing your language in order to gain seconds advantage is borderline stupid imo. It's easier to open a youtube video or netflix on the side and alt+tab instead of putting all that effort. If you're anxious to the point that you have to do that, do yourself a favor and don't queue for it. Honestly that's not even an exploit imo, have fun hitting the boss alone since you don't have patience to alt+tab for a few min I guess.

I also find that castrum&cia should be a solo instance and msq-roulette a roulette for all-msq-related dungeons, but it is what it is.

[Anya_Synia]

Which rules? There are none. It´s not even a real exploit and SE can´t determine if someone disconnect on purpose or not, unless they´re writing it in the chat.
Sometimes ppl just disconnect or a leaver is getting replaced with someone else via MSQ or Mentor-roulette. Of course it would be kind to wait then, but who does that? Ppl rush castrum anyway and in 9/10 cases newbies will die on the way, because they don´t know what´s going on.

SE just needs to stop to force ppl to wait for some cutszene-watchers or that we´ve to watch cutszenes over and over again. Problem solved.

It is a real exploit and yes people do get punished for it.

[Kirika-]

Which rules? There are none. It´s not even a real exploit and SE can´t determine if someone disconnect on purpose or not, unless they´re writing it in the chat.
Sometimes ppl just disconnect or a leaver is getting replaced with someone else via MSQ or Mentor-roulette. Of course it would be kind to wait then, but who does that? Ppl rush castrum anyway and in 9/10 cases newbies will die on the way, because they don´t know what´s going on.

SE just needs to stop to force ppl to wait for some cutszene-watchers or that we´ve to watch cutszenes over and over again. Problem solved.

Yes, it is against the rules. That are laid out, go read them, as you do state that you did so when you signed up for the game.
Yes, they are enforced.

It is completely trivial, for both SE and anyone who has played this game long enough, to tell the difference between someone accidentally disconnecting or if it's someone using a different language and therefor getting a shorter cut scene time, and someone exploiting the game mechanics to cheat. Even easier to report said players by name and server for breaking the rules, while in game, and it only takes a minute to do.
And, yes, they DO take action against said cheaters.

The non-skip-able cut scenes are for only two MSQ instances, and are in place for the benefit of first time players of them and are compensated for in exp, gil, and tombstones at a higher rate that any other dungeon or roulette.

If you do not want to watch the cut scenes, then you do not get the rewards. If that is what you want, don't queue for them. Problem solved.

[ssunny2008]

Yes, it is against the rules. That are laid out, go read them, as you do state that you did so when you signed up for the game.
Yes, they are enforced.

I know the standard gaming rules, but there are none like "don´t disconnect in castrum". An exploit is something which gives you a huge advantage ingame. To skip a cutszene is no real exploit.
If someone is doing that in 3-4 cutszenes, ofc it´s super suspicious, but in the end, you might punish someone for perma dc´s caused by the provider. It´s not like you can kick such persons out of the group and all would be fine anyway.

And, yes, they DO take action against said cheaters.

It´s laughable what they do there. There are so many ppl cheating, exploiting, using cheats or bots and SE just ignores it on purpose. As long as you´re no chat spamming real money trader or some badass who´s insulting others in the mainchat, you won´t get banned anyway. I´ve reported more than enough ppl who abuse different bots.
No matter if it´s something like cactbot or the farmbot, whatever. They´re still playing and have x 9999 stacks of polycrystals in the AH. And nobody can tell me, that they´ve farmed that every day, just to sell them for 10 gil or less. Not to mention all those "savage / ultimate" - carry groups who´re free to advertise themselves in the game, just to get paid with real money via discord / paypal.
But hey, i got banned once because my bank fckd up online services, so 1,50€ for a music roll from the shop didn´t got paid. Did i got a message that something went wrong from SE´s side? NO! I needed to call them, still got banned for a couple of days until they got their 1,50€, meanwhile i lost paid time from the abonnement and you noone of them is available at weekends too.

Their "ban - priorities" and customer-service is a joke.


And if we´re talking about exploits in that way, what about "Hello World"?

It´s not like SE should fix such stuff immediately, but they don´t.