Cutsence Skipping in MSQ Roulettes, by disconnecting

[DBriggs304]

Report it. A minute isn't going to kill people.

[Stepjam]

It's an exploit that's been known for a good while.

But yeah, just report it when you see it. It's an exploit that goes against the devs' intentions here and can tarnish the experience for new players if they do something like pull a boss mid cutscene.

[Karshan]

Fucking put those 2 as MSQ solo mission already, it should have been done a very long time ago and would have avoided so much salt.

[Alien_Gamer]

As the title suggests, I have noticed that people have begun to skip the cutscenes in MSQ-Roulettes again. They do so by quickly disconnecting and reconnecting to the game.

Even if one waits out bench time - aka the login queue - it is still considerably shorter than the cutscenes. If more than one person does that in a run, the boss will be dead before the cutscenes are over, allowing them to move forward faster.

It appears as if the idea of "making cutscenes unskippable in MSQ-roulette" was only a temporary solution because by now people have found a way around this "unskippability".

What do you think is a good way to deal with this?

I've been in a couple runs where 3 people were skipping like that and it really didn't speed things up at all. Before Nero, they'd finish the fight around the same time the cut scene ends, with Nero and Ultima they'd get about halfway through before the rest arrived but Lahabread would die before the cutscenes finished.

They had to disconnect/reconnect their internet each CS, sit through log in queues, then work harder to kill the boss, all for 2-3 minutes off the run? I think the longest time I've seen saved from that exploit was about 5 minutes. Doing all that extra unnecessary work for a few minutes? You'd have to get at least half the group to make any significant dent in the time elapsed, while I'm sure that has happened somewhere, its exceedingly rare.

I'm sure in the minds of the skippers, all that work is worth the 2 minutes saved. Meanwhile I'm just going to sit back and laugh at the absurdity of it all.

[True-to-Caesar]

When I did these runs the first time it was not enjoyable as sprout. I did have cutscene disconnect skippers who were laughing at me and being jerks because I forgot to get the key and got left behind (for some reason it’s the only dungeon where everyone must get the key, instead of being shared like other dungeons previously and after that).

Besides for Lahabrea who has very low HP, this exploit is hardly worth it because you get 2-3 people doing it max.


Both Castrum thingies should be solo, if they persist with group content, at least let people skip it if everyone did the MSQ already.

But hey, i got banned once because my bank fckd up online services, so 1,50€ for a music roll from the shop didn´t got paid. Did i got a message that something went wrong from SE´s side? NO! I needed to call them, still got banned for a couple of days until they got their 1,50€, meanwhile i lost paid time from the abonnement and you noone of them is available at weekends too.

Is this real ?
How can you blame and punish a customer for something clearly outside their control, instead of talking to them as first approach or removing the item?

You can’t expect them to buy more cashshop stuff in the future with that kind of actions. Amazing, no idea who decided that but they must be bad at customer relation and sales management.

[ssunny2008]

So because you feel SE doesn't enforce some rules, they should add more rules to list of rules to ignore?

Given to the circumstances, SE clearly don´t do enough against such stuff. And yes, i do know about the montly banrates, which are normally goldseller and not gamer bots / exploituser. To ban someone because of castrum is a joke combined to everything else which happens in this game pretty often.

In case of farmbots, it´s not so hard to track them and you can find their core-user-accounts pretty easily. Just check out the market board for suspicious prices / stacks and or check out the trade history.
ACT / cactbots or housing glitch users shouldn´t be hard to find too. I´m pretty sure that you don´t need dozens of spyware, when something is interacting in a pretty obvious way with the game / servers.

Such stuff is not even a single written hack or something, it´s everywhere and there are internet sides where you get it. SE don´t even make any effort to close such sides.

Is this real ?
How can you blame and punish a customer for something clearly outside their control, instead of talking to them as first approach or removing the item?

You can’t expect them to buy more cashshop stuff in the future with that kind of actions. Amazing, no idea who decided that but they must be bad at customer relation and sales management.

Yes this is real, it was the Answer - Reprise roll. The bill wasn´t paid on monday, so i got banned at friday. I tried to login and got the standard "you´re account bla" message. I called them and he told me, that it was not paid for whatever reason. So i called my bank and they told me, that they had issues this day, so the online-payment was deleted from their system. I called SE again and told them, that it was a bank-issue and that i´ve uploaded some crysta, so they can take those 1,50€ away there and open my account. But no, it was not possible, it takes time. So i had to wait until monday, since nobody works on weekend at SE.
At the end i´ve asked about the lost abo-time and that it was obviously not my fault / on purpose. But something like a goodwill or real customer-service doesn´t exist there.

Had another thing with a statue from the shop, which got delayed thx to corona. I haven´t recieved any new infos or something after the 2nd date it should´ve arrived here, but atleast there i got my money back after 4 months.

[Lauren]

Castrum and Prem should be solo instances at the end of the day.

I hate that new players take ages to queue into them only to watch all these cut scenes introducing bosses and the bosses just MELT within seconds. It must be so anti-climatic.

It's a waste of time for everyone really.

[kiagenwa]

Why is MSQ a problem?
No one is forced to run it after their first run, and you can do other stuff while watching cutscenes.

It's not the end of the world if you miss MSQ when you don't have time.
Still, it's exp and gil rewards sure are alluring and it's one roulette I try to not miss.

Think about it. You work very little in this roulette. Most of the time you just stand around. I can cook a meal waiting for the big guy to finish talking lol
I don't mind having more such dungeon for the variety of it