The cat's (or femhroth in this case) outta the bag

[Iscah]

As for the rest of the thread, My 1000th post sage advice is that I suggest people simply use Occam's Razor...

Occam's Razor (or Thaliak's, as I've noted people say in-game) is defined on the Wikipedia page as:

when presented with competing hypotheses about the same prediction, one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions

Having applied that, given the choice between:

A) they built a special new body model to represent female Hrothgar even though they stuck a Roegadyn head on it, which does not particularly match the mural, despite the fact that they are otherwise so low-priority that the devs are putting 100% work into male Viera before turning their attention to Hrothgar, or

B) they decided early on that she had to be a Roegadyn, but wanted her to look prettier so they used a different female body model,

...B is the simpler answer and does not make the huge assumption that because it is a "new" body model, regardless of exactly how they arrived at it, it must be a Hrothgar model.


Also, the illustration of the Hrothgar queen doesn't look slender in the body at all. I think she looks more like the figure shown in the other mural seen at the end of the prologue with the queen quite frankly looking closer to Dulia-Chai than the slender Roegadyn Gunnhildr. So I have an even harder time believing the body model "must" have been built for the would-be Hrothgar Gunnhildr even if the shrine maidens in the second mural are closer to it.

In fact, looking at that again now, it seems to clearly be a stylised version of her in the same mechanical chair shown in the illustration.

(I tried to upload a screenshot but it is late and my computer is being stubborn so I will have to do it tomorrow.)


On a side note, Merlwyb sets a precedent for some individual Roegadyn to be more slender than the standard character's body shape.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Fair enough. Is this the only boss outfit to appear in the data-mine (I'm curious if Edda's outfit appeared as well, before it became available on Mogstation)?

if the face is going to end up mostly/completely looking human, then it's Miqo'te 2.0 to me regardless of how the body looks. I would like to think SE didn't end up going with that look for them as they have rejected a male Hrothgar face for looking like a Miqo'tes in the past.

This is a Very Valid point, and further pushes one sides Narrative that the Mural, and now that new Picture, are possibly just placeholders.
Why reject the Males looking to much Like Miqote, just to be ok with Females looking like Miqote?
The design Philosophy wouldn't add up. And "making money from Fantasia sales" is not a valid or even a decent argument.

[Allegor]

*ehem*

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

*ehem*

Stop it, we're all wrong, it has to be a Hrothgar Female based on Circumstantial Evidence.

[VictorTheed]

Whatever they turn out to look like I hope their beautiful like highlander women cause at the end of the day they ain't gonna be able to wear most headgear just like the same fate of their male counterparts.

I'd rather male viera and female hrothgar be put on the shelf and the devs attention be focused on getting all headgear wearable by male hrothgar and female viera first.

[SherlottaEryut]

I'd rather male viera and female hrothgar be put on the shelf and the devs attention be focused on getting all headgear wearable by male hrothgar and female viera first.

I agree. I love how SE are implementing new races, it must take a lot of work and time. It demonstrates they do listen to what the gamers want.

But Viera and Hrothgar are still lacking options and I have modern aesthetics that I still can’t have access to. I just wish they sorted out the pre-existing issues before implementing new races to the game.

I don’t think majority of headgear will ever be accessible to viera, that could just be me being pessimistic. I’m fine with circlets and the occasional hood… I’d just like something else to work with, something else to substitute what I’m missing.

[Lihtleita]

*ehem*

i dont know how to say this, but you get the same result overlaying a femroe face. surprisingly, we all have eyes, noses and mouths in the same general area

[Allegor]

i dont know how to say this, but you get the same result overlaying a femroe face. surprisingly, we all have eyes, noses and mouths in the same general area

You notice that's literally the problem here, right. A cat shouldn't have a human's face

[Skivvy]

Sooooo question for all you people who may know more of what the actual book entails, bozja lore and maybe thoughts as far as timing go...

What do you think the likelihood is that the picture from the book was created prior to femhroth truly being a twinkle in the Dev's eyes? Could it be that they just drew something feline'ish to satisfy the art/lore of Bozja as they never expected femhroths to come to life?

[xxmiamorecadenza]

I ain't gonna judge too harshly 'till I see a side profile, tbh.