Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
Never said going slow is the default; I said there is no default. Any DF group is 4 individuals with specific individual standards and expectations. Wanting players to have a reasonable baseline is pointless, because no one cares what you want. If you go into DF expecting people to care about your arbitrary standards then you're just going to get frustrated at the constant realization that you're simply not that important. It's why I keep suggesting PF if your "baseline" is really that important to you.


Are you sure you want to go with a completely nonsensical "I know you are, but what am I!" here? Do you really not know the difference between a preference and an expectation?
Right cause that's why most parties never actually communicate how they want to run through a dungeon and naturally fall into whatever pace works for them until someone goes outside of that unspoken range that people have. The very fact that you're trying to express "don't have a standard" is in itself setting a standard. I don't have to care if people care. Most people fall into my expectations without me having to say anything. The amount of times I personally express or see someone express a desire for the run to go at a different pace is laughably low. People also have standards of communication. That's pretty clear when you try to give someone advice and they completely deny it or even get angry at you. Some people's standards are simply to never be told what to do at all while others greatly desire input.

Also to your last point. Do you? You've consistently misunderstood peoples comments in this thread on that exact topic.