Asmongold on NSFW mods

[LianaThorne]

I hate spyware to a massive degree and I am a major privacy advocate on a great many things but the alternative is worse. If people can't be trusted to do the right thing, what other choice will SE have, outside shutting down the servers? If people don't want SE to respond, they should not back them into a corner.

I certainly would not put SE on the same levels as say Google or the US and UK governments, when it comes to people's privacy.



It's a game rated T. Stop using the internet as an excuse for this type of behavior. Teens will do stuff on their own. An adult should not be bringing that to teens. That adult that does bring it to teens is responsible. They are the ones doing it. You complained being off topic over the ERP with teens, but you bring it back up and pretended I was talking about the internet in general or Twitter.

As for the modders, they clearly don't care what people see on the cesspool of the internet Twitter, adult or child. That is a major issue. That's bad for SE, which is also bad for the player base. The minor stuff is outright illegal.

SE literally will not put anything on our computers. Yoshi has said this multiple times. I'd be happy to even include a link to an interview he did last year saying that they still will not put anything on our computers. The end. Let's move on from this instead of beating a dead horse.

Second off, this is the internet and people will do whatever they want. I'm sorry to break it to you. I know it's probably not what you want to hear but unfortunately that is what people do on the internet. There are nude mods for numerous amounts of games, a lot of them ALSO including an underage audience (even if they're rated M because let's be real...who hasn't begged their parents to get them a game not rated for them?).

I'll say it again, it's on both. Modders to properly keep their mods to an adult audience and parents to help their kids stay safe online and away from that side of the internet (i.e. parental controls....they literally exist for a reason).

At the end of the day, sexual stuff is going to be on the internet. If they don't look at FF's stuff, there are dozens of pron sites and hentai available as an alternative. Do you expect the pron industry to just not make pron anymore because kids could stumble on it? Absolutely not. That's where parents come in to block the content they don't want their kids to see.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Every time I convince myself I have no faith left in humanity to lose, I see a thread like this, and I lose another notch I didn't even know I still had.

[Zsolen]

SE literally will not put anything on our computers. Yoshi has said this multiple times. I'd be happy to even include a link to an interview he did last year saying that they still will not put anything on our computers. The end. Let's move on from this instead of beating a dead horse.

Second off, this is the internet and people will do whatever they want. I'm sorry to break it to you. I know it's probably not what you want to hear but unfortunately that is what people do on the internet. There are nude mods for numerous amounts of games, a lot of them ALSO including an underage audience (even if they're rated M because let's be real...who hasn't begged their parents to get them a game not rated for them?).

I'll say it again, it's on both. Modders to properly keep their mods to an adult audience and parents to help their kids stay safe online and away from that side of the internet (i.e. parental controls....they literally exist for a reason).

At the end of the day, sexual stuff is going to be on the internet. If they don't look at FF's stuff, there are dozens of pron sites and hentai available as an alternative. Do you expect the pron industry to just not make pron anymore because kids could stumble on it? Absolutely not. That's where parents come in to block the content they don't want their kids to see.

Times change. SE will do what it has to do. It would not be the first time SE changed its mind on anything.

Why do you keep expanding things to other games and other things on the internet? We are talking about FFXIV, when it comes to the teens. Stop talking about other stuff in an attempt to muddy the waters. We are only talking about the mod screenshots, when it comes to Twitter, which doesn't involve IRL teens but the characters that are minors. These are two completely different subjects.

Say it again all you want, they should not post anything on Twitter. it's not hard to not post stuff.

Maybe I need to say it a few more more times. I am not talking about what teens see on the general internet. I am not talking about what teens see on the general internet. I am not talking about what teens see on the general internet. Did you get it yet?

[Driavna]

Yes it is on the parents to monitor their children & TEENAGERS on the internet.

And if said parent reports that person will be ban, or perhaps even something more serious. This is like in real life with night clubs, even if said club check ID and only allow adults if a minor fake one and go in the person that had any kind of intimacy with said minor is the one in big trouble. Saying: "is not my problem it's the parents problem" is big brain stupidity just waiting to cash out at some point or another.

[Wyssahtyn]

the groomers are out in force in this thread huh

[BaconBits]

Feel like I shouldn't have to say this, but just banning nsfw mods wouldn't actually prevent creeps from trying to RP/ERP with minors.

Say SE actually did decide to start banning mods, what exactly is stopping them from going full "scorched earth" and disabling things like Gshade and ACT or whatever other benign mods you PC people use? I'd imagine Raiders and Gposers alike wouldn't be too pleased at first. But that still doesn't solve the issue of absolute weirdos trying to do the virtual nasty with underaged players, so SE proceeds to ban Roleplaying and consequently ERP as well. Now the RP community is in an uproar due to being punished for the actions of a bunch of outright degenerates. And that still wouldn't deter these people from seeking out minors.

As long as a chatbox exists, they can try to invite them to discord pages or other chatrooms to engage in illegal RP. SE could try to add a filter that detects when websites are being posted in the chat log, but I don't doubt that people would find ways to circumvent it, like telling someone to add them on Discord so they can be invited. At that point, they might as well go full PvP mode where everyone can only communicate via auto translated words and phrases.

Alternatively, they could just bump up the rating from T to M and set an age requirement, but that wouldn't really stop some goofy teenager from lying about their age and sneaking in anyways. The only thing that can realistically happen is that people actually police their selves and call out weirdos when they see them, because what I wrote above is an absolute worst case scenario that I honestly couldn't see SE going through with.

[Karthunk]

No, because there was nothing to screenshot. This was casually said in a discord call during an event they were hosting. If I had expected to hear this , I would have recorded it though. But that also wouldnt help as they dont accept those forms of proof. I am not the only one who has been trying to see something done about this.

Are we really going to go down the rabbit hole of she said, he said? You need actual in game proof to do in-game actions against people.

Lalafells are not children, people need to stop projecting their view of them on everyone else.

[Sclair0]

Lalas might not be kids, but I do think they have enough neotenous design aspects that Im cool with banning anyone doing erp with them.

But I genuinely think theres probably more discussion and concern about these sorts of things than there is actual problem people doing this sorta stuff... That said I play on Moogle so theres a possibility I never see any erp cause its all in french

[Dogempire]

Are we really going to go down the rabbit hole of she said, he said? You need actual in game proof to do in-game actions against people.

Lalafells are not children, people need to stop projecting their view of them on everyone else.

Eh, when it comes to something animated like video games/anime characters you go by how old they look, not how old they're written to be.

Lots of people try to get around the entire "But they're a minor" thing by just stating that their made up age is 20/30/5000 year old vampires but that still doesn't make it fine because you're still drawing what amounts to child p*rnography. It's just a crappy, flimsy excuse that pedophiles use to get away with their shiznit

[Caurcas]

File checking is not spyware, it's just communicating from the client's game version to the server game version. This can be accomplished without installing any other tool on one's pc. Furthermore, it wouldn't hit ACT or filters because those to not alter game files.