Lore-ish thoughts about Auri descendance/lineage

[Astralia]

Really, Hrothgar continue to be kind of the big question-mark for me. They're definitely the most "exotic" race of the bunch, to the point I have a harder time imagining them sharing any sort of heritage with anyone else.

I used to think Aura were the most exotic race before Hrothgar release. Mi'qote would be to like we could wonder how they got furry ears and tail, but in the case of Aura, they tried to make us believe they are not descendant of the dragons.. I still think there's a link between them tbh. Especially when you look at the first arts in the HW artbooks, Aura were supposed to be a dragon-looking race, even demonic one as they were drawn as succubus-looking as well, or may be they are linked to both as well. Unless I missed some interviews where Koji-Fox and Oda clearly stated this is purely a coincidence (a coincidence I would not be inclined to accept)

That still doesn't make sense from a biology point of view. You can't have all of your genes be dominant. Unless you are cloned or bud off of another living being, you're going to have a blended mix of your parents' DNA. For example, if a corgi and a golden retriever have puppies together, they're usually going to come out looking like a blend of both of them, not like cartoons where the girls look like the mom and the boys look like the dad or the other way around.

Therefore if we assume the DNA mix to apply in the game too, it's clear that an aura hybrid (from Hyur x Aura for example) will take after the Aura parent (whether it's the father or the mother), and will not purely be Hyur nor Aura, but blended like in the tale with similar horns (I also think there are more than 4 horn designs, like in Sui you see some children with the same horns as my Aura -> see my pfp, but with the horns horizontally tilted), and less scales, shorter tail or no tail maybe let's be crazy !

But after all, we can take whatever liberties we want ! I just wanted to have your thoughts about this as well and thanks

[Caitlyn]

I used to think Aura were the most exotic race before Hrothgar release. Mi'qote would be to like we could wonder how they got furry ears and tail, but in the case of Aura, they tried to make us believe they are not descendant of the dragons.. I still think there's a link between them tbh. Especially when you look at the first arts in the HW artbooks, Aura were supposed to be a dragon-looking race, even demonic one as they were drawn as succubus-looking as well, or may be they are linked to both as well. Unless I missed some interviews where Koji-Fox and Oda clearly stated this is purely a coincidence (a coincidence I would not be inclined to accept)

Its kinda funny that Au Ra (a dragon-like race) were intruduced with the expansion about dragons at the same time!
And with all those scales, the look more like dragons than voidsent.

The only issue I have is, that Raen doesnt have a real homeland (unlike Xaela).

Is somewhere stated, that Raen or Xaela are good in swimming or diving?

[Astralia]

Its kinda funny that Au Ra (a dragon-like race) were intruduced with the expansion about dragons at the same time!
And with all those scales, the look more like dragons than voidsent.

The only issue I have is, that Raen doesnt have a real homeland (unlike Xaela).

Is somewhere stated, that Raen or Xaela are good in swimming or diving?

Yeah, the final design resulted in them looking more like dragons than voidsent, but them coming from the steppes or Thavnair does not solve the issue of them descending or not of the dragons.

It's just said somewhere that they befriended the green Kojin that blessed them so they could live under the sea, I guess those one are good in swimming or diving since they mostly live from fishing around and business via Tamamizu, concerning the other raens that spread throughout Ilsabard and elsewhere I wouldn't know

[MikkoAkure]

Its kinda funny that Au Ra (a dragon-like race) were intruduced with the expansion about dragons at the same time!
And with all those scales, the look more like dragons than voidsent.

The only issue I have is, that Raen doesnt have a real homeland (unlike Xaela).

Is somewhere stated, that Raen or Xaela are good in swimming or diving?

I've always thought that it was a bit weird that a dragon-like race is introduced in an expansion that is all about dragons. But besides Koji saying in interviews that they're 100% not related to dragons, Shadowbringers put the final nail in the coffin of that theory because there are au ra on the First (though named something suspiciously similar to "dragon"), and we now know that dragons came to the Source from a different planet after the Shattering had already separated the First from the Source.

Raen, like hyur, seem to be adaptive and far-spreading. But I would be inclined to argue that Doma or Hingashi could count as sort of a homeland for them. Though they make up a minority in both countries, the governor of Kugane is a raen and we meet a raen princess from Hingashi in the ninja storyline. I don't believe we know the race of the emperor or the shogun, but at least that tells us that there are raen clans that are powerful in the government of Hingashi despite fully assimilating to the culture of the native hyur to that region.

I think there were a few Xaela tribes mentioned that were based around swimming and diving and one that can hold their breath for a long time. Then there's the raen clan that live in Sui-no-Sato who live underwater and naturally would have to swim a lot. Going back to when I first played Stormblood I was wondering if au ra actually were originally aquatic since I thought that having horns for ears would help with being underwater. Even though the underwater au ra can breath water, that doesn't help with water pressure as far as I know and going deep down would make your ears hurt, so not having ear drums at all would help.

[Caitlyn]

I was wondering if their horns may work even better underwater. Especially for those living in Sui No Sato. Their tail could also help to swim faster.

[Astralia]

I've always thought that it was a bit weird that a dragon-like race is introduced in an expansion that is all about dragons. But besides Koji saying in interviews that they're 100% not related to dragons, Shadowbringers put the final nail in the coffin of that theory because there are au ra on the First (though named something suspiciously similar to "dragon"), and we now know that dragons came to the Source from a different planet after the Shattering had already separated the First from the Source.

Raen, like hyur, seem to be adaptive and far-spreading. But I would be inclined to argue that Doma or Hingashi could count as sort of a homeland for them. Though they make up a minority in both countries, the governor of Kugane is a raen and we meet a raen princess from Hingashi in the ninja storyline. I don't believe we know the race of the emperor or the shogun, but at least that tells us that there are raen clans that are powerful in the government of Hingashi despite fully assimilating to the culture of the native hyur to that region.

I think there were a few Xaela tribes mentioned that were based around swimming and diving and one that can hold their breath for a long time. Then there's the raen clan that live in Sui-no-Sato who live underwater and naturally would have to swim a lot. Going back to when I first played Stormblood I was wondering if au ra actually were originally aquatic since I thought that having horns for ears would help with being underwater. Even though the underwater au ra can breath water, that doesn't help with water pressure as far as I know and going deep down would make your ears hurt, so not having ear drums at all would help.

Yeah, well, I was nitpicking a bit with their relation to dragons but well, let's put this aside.
Concerning their homeland I'd be tempted to say they mostly come from hingashi/doma as well, but as Mikko said, they're fast spreading and adapting to the local culture. The lore say that they even spread to the west and north-west of Ilsabard besides, since a few weeks we know they founded Radz-at-Han in Thavnair with the Matanga. Concerning the Raen from Sui-no-Sato, they only represent about 10% of the total Raen that exist and their ability to breath underwater comes from the Green Koji spell/blessing and, as far as this goes, the spell may give them the possibility to sustain the pressure underwater.

[Iscah]

What do you mean by the OP?

OP = original poster. The person who started the thread.

Lord only knows how Hrothgar factor into things, though. Especially since Runas is clearly in love with Y'shtola, it... raises some questions...

It's not something we have to reckon with in reality because there's only one species that has "human-style intelligence", but in a fantasy setting where there are multiple intelligent species then you're inevitably going to have some people who fall in love with someone who isn't biologically compatible with them.

[Caitlyn]

Concerning the Raen from Sui-no-Sato, they only represent about 10% of the total Raen that exist and their ability to breath underwater comes from the Green Koji spell/blessing and, as far as this goes, the spell may give them the possibility to sustain the pressure underwater.

10% underwater, 40% spread over the world, 50% dead xD

Nah, I m just kidding.

But concerning about the Au Ra in the First: Those where called "Drahn", which is very similiar for the dragon speak word "dra[n]" (which means dragon). I mean, they got horns, a tail, scales. And in their folklore/history/origin they believe they are the descendants of Nhaama and Azim (or better: Tiamat and Bahamut, both dragons).

I believe its more likely that one part is more dominant than the other part. In a Au Ra x Miqo'te couple, it may be more possible to have a pure Au Ra or Miqo'te child than a hybrid of both. With some rare exceptions of course.

I still wonder, why Yugiri have a more unique design than most other Au Ra.