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    Unhappy Please Square-Enix solve the housing problem with Island Sanctuaries

    I came from ESO, not WOW. And in that game I had a lot of homes. Was so easy, with real money or no money at all (a big house is a reward for a set of long quests). Now, in FFXIV, the housing system is a disaster. Period.

    And I know the housing lottery system will be as bad as today. We'll continue having much much more people trying to buy than lots available.

    How can you solve this? Easy: copy the ESO system and create invididual stances, just like inn rooms, but this time with the Island Sanctuaries system.

    Let us gardening there and sell us, with gil money of course, the right to build: 500.000 for building a small room (as an apartment), 3.000.000 for a small house (as today) and more for a medium house or maybe a farm.

    I love this game, but it's unfair don't have access to all the game can offer just because you don't have time for clicking a placard for hours.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaLTRaiN View Post
    I love this game, but it's unfair don't have access to all the game can offer just because you don't have time for clicking a placard for hours.
    No pain, no gain.

    I've been active with housing for a while now, spending several hundred of hours and decorating multiple houses. Reading all these topics here, i can understand the frustration of people wanting their own home to toy around with for a few hours but then they just sit on it and do nothing with it because they lack time or patience to actually build something.
    Also, housing isn't really all that much fun if you have no one to share your work with, it is tedious and time consuming, when ever i finish a build, i am eager to show it to people in my FC and discuss it or get new ideas, or just try to invite random people to come and look, maybe finding new customers or friends that way.

    I can only suggest to people like you , find an FC and start with your own room in there or try to buy an apartment, you can also share a garden with your FC, or work on an FC house together, which is a lot more fun than furnishing your own house once and alone anyway.
    I agree that the way of aquiring a house is not ideal, but giving everyone an instanced house would destroy the social aspect of the housing system, this is an MMO after all and that also applies to housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    No pain, no gain.

    I've been active with housing for a while now, spending several hundred of hours and decorating multiple houses. Reading all these topics here, i can understand the frustration of people wanting their own home to toy around with for a few hours but then they just sit on it and do nothing with it because they lack time or patience to actually build something.
    Also, housing isn't really all that much fun if you have no one to share your work with, it is tedious and time consuming, when ever i finish a build, i am eager to show it to people in my FC and discuss it or get new ideas, or just try to invite random people to come and look, maybe finding new customers or friends that way.

    I can only suggest to people like you , find an FC and start with your own room in there or try to buy an apartment, you can also share a garden with your FC, or work on an FC house together, which is a lot more fun than furnishing your own house once and alone anyway.
    I agree that the way of aquiring a house is not ideal, but giving everyone an instanced house would destroy the social aspect of the housing system, this is an MMO after all and that also applies to housing.
    There are barely any folks roaming the wards, the only « social » aspect is people writing a note on your golden book, or inviting people like friends/guildmates to come visit which can also be done in ESO with its instanced housing.

    There’s literally no genuine reason to not have this feature, besides selfish ones. Notably from housing dealers, may it be gil or RMT.

    (and extra work for the devs but could be profitable down the line)

    No pain no gain ?
    So you put up with an awful design and people should waste time on it too ? With no guarantee to have anything at all ?

    If I was in your shoes I’d be happy for newcomers to not deal with crap stuff like this.
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    Last edited by True-to-Caesar; 08-27-2021 at 07:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    If I was in your shoes I’d be happy for newcomers to not deal with crap stuff like this.
    I didn't say it is a good system, but if your only solution is to give everyone an instanced house, might as well delete the neighborhoods which would be sad, and no matter how many more plots they could add, the demand is much higher.

    Also because you see no one running around in housing areas just shows how "useless" housing actually is to the rest of the game, i knew several people who managed to get their small plot and now they do nothing with it because they are too lazy for it and say it is too much work.

    I like how owning a house is a real prestige thing in the game, same as getting a really rare mount to show off or defeating the hardest bosses for weapon skins. I don't like the way to acquire one, the lottery will just make it worse for people who REALLY want to get a house, because the competition will be even higher.
    I would add an auction as well, then you have three ways of getting a house instead of just clicking the placards. (and don't cry me a river about people buying gil for real money from botters, it is not my job to fix botting or ban those)

    I just really have a problem with orphaned houses that sit empty because their owner doesn't do anything with it, knowing how happy they were when they finaly got their home and now they gave up on it.
    But it is what it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Also, housing isn't really all that much fun if you have no one to share your work with, it is tedious and time consuming, when ever i finish a build, i am eager to show it to people in my FC and discuss it or get new ideas, or just try to invite random people to come and look, maybe finding new customers or friends that way.
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    Sounds like your motivation isn't the same as everyone else's.

    I decorate for my pleasure and satisfaction, not to show off what I've done to others. While my house is open to visitors who come across it on their own, I don't go out of my way to get them.

    Some players simply want a place to call their own and decorate. That's it. Having a house gives them far more options than they get with an apartment.

    They're just as deserving of the opportunity to own a house as you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    With what they said and described nothing in Island will do housing.
    Correct, but a lot of players are still hoping that SE will add housing to it some time in the future.

    Personally, I don't want a house on a farm so I'd rather they created a new instanced housing system separate from Island Sanctuaries and apartments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    To be honest, I'd LOVE to have a small individual instance that would let me pick the plot and then the game would auto-populate the rest with area-appropriate houses and NPCs.
    That happens with some of the Dimensions in RIFT. They basically take a piece of the game world and make it available as a Dimension. Some are wilderness, some are city, some are a blank template. You get to build on the Dimension as you like up to the item limit. There are pre-fab buildings and items, there are also a variety of Building Blocks to create your own items. No glitch tricks needed, free placement, rotation, resizing allowed.

    Arokk might feel overly impressed by the housing system here but those who have had a chance to play with ESO, Wildstar, RIFT and others aren't because we know how much more is possible.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 08-28-2021 at 03:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    and decorating multiple houses
    People like this are part of the problem. With such limited availability hoarding multiple homes is greedy and selfish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    People like this are part of the problem. With such limited availability hoarding multiple homes is greedy and selfish.
    Rather that than people who think they want a house and once they get it it stands empty cause they quit the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Rather that than people who think they want a house and once they get it it stands empty cause they quit the game.
    I can imagine this would suck, but isn't there some sort of expiration that automatically relinquishes the house if they don't visit it for a while?
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    Would be interesting if it did but I will say the lottery system ain’t it. The old way was okay but due to the volume we need a new solution or system. We can’t just keeping adding more wards. Best of luck
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    With what they said and described nothing in Island will do housing.
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