Let's Talk: EN players in JP data centre

[Saphyra_Morwyn]

B being main tank was something I never heard of until people started talking about JP. Especially in WoD, it's either A or C since B means B's healers can't go into the belly on Cerberus since they have to babysit the tank. But generally it's kind of whoever wants the job and outside of a rare exception, all the tanks stay near each other so they can take over quickly if one goes down.

Here, it's alliance A that goes into the belly while C takes care of the wolfsbanes. With this wave of new players though, WoD has started being a wipefest that some ppl try to avoid again.

I've seen people try to throw up the vote dismiss after one wipe in PF groups, lol. Or even in alliance raids sometimes. Generally everyone is like "WTF" and "Leave if you're that impatient". Far more often after the one or two impatient ones have left, I see everyone else stubbornly staying like "We WILL pass this, or die trying". Even Aether does have a point where we'll toss in the towel and a vote dismiss goes through, but we definitely gave it our all before that. I do think that is a difference, though, because it is in our culture to not think as well of someone who gives up what we consider too easily. I *have* seen DF groups that want to keep going that will kick someone at their request who doesn't, though, so they don't get a penalty, but that's usually after a few tries.

The 3 wipes disband thing applies in general but it's particularly noticeable when ppl do savage weekly reclears using Raid Finder.
We post the macro, everyone calls out their positions, we attempt it once, twice, three times. Something is not clicking here when it's supposed to work like a well-oiled machine so we vote disband and regroup again with RF. I personally don't think it's about being impatient, because if it's a normal trial with first timers for example, we'll try to go until we clear for the sprouts. That's casual content though.

PF groups usually state how many wipes before they disband, this could be 3 or 5, or 3 before p2 in 12s and as many as it takes to clear after.


I can see a lot of it being due to cultural difference and that is partly why I made the video for new players who may never have to considered about this aspect of online gaming before.

If Saphyra meant 3 wipes and disband in a Raid Finder party... I guess that's more understandable. But everyone joined of their own volition, anyway, so it still sounds like impatience and failure to really analyze what's going wrong. Are there exceptions if the wipes are caused by disconnects at pivotal points?
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Rather than pointing out what or "who" is making the mistakes, the Japanese would rather disband and reform. I'm not saying that this is a bad or a good thing, but it's a thing that is understandable from a cultural stand point, I think. Wipes caused by DCs usually don't count, no.