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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    If I miss a positional in a dungeon because the tank is holding the enemy with just it's face poking out of a fire circle, and it's rear and flank are in the bad, that's the tank's fault.

    Tell that to the multitude of DPS that will chew a tank out for daring to move the boss an inch. I wouldn't dare attempt to count the times I or other tanks have had to deal with someone baby raging because we thought they might like to be able to access a given boss's rear and flank without being set on fire. This is why so many tanks elect to move enemies the bare minimum distance.
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Tell that to the multitude of DPS that will chew a tank out for daring to move the boss an inch. I wouldn't dare attempt to count the times I or other tanks have had to deal with someone baby raging because we thought they might like to be able to access a given boss's rear and flank without being set on fire. This is why so many tanks elect to move enemies the bare minimum distance.
    Then I, as the healer, will tell them that dead DPS do no DPS, and they can stay dead for forcing the party to lose DPS by making me hardcast heals. If the tank can't move to dodge damage and reposition cause DPS complains "but muh DPS uptime", then the DPS tax goes to the healer in the end anyway. Overall, the party's outgoing damage remains unchanged.
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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Tell that to the multitude of DPS that will chew a tank out for daring to move the boss an inch. I wouldn't dare attempt to count the times I or other tanks have had to deal with someone baby raging because we thought they might like to be able to access a given boss's rear and flank without being set on fire. This is why so many tanks elect to move enemies the bare minimum distance.
    I've never once chewed out a tank for pulling an enemy out of a ground AOE, I don't want to stand in it any more than my healer wants to stand in it. If the tank has to move the boss anyway, they should move it in such a way that DPS can still do their job. If they're doing it properly, and some DPS gets angry that they moved the boss too far, tell that bard to move in and adjust. (I'm assuming it must be some ranged job, since melee would never complain if a tank pulls a boss out of an AOE entirely)
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