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  1. #41
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    More of an echo at this point but proper glamour log (in the form of the item in log they were originally working in, for extra cool points), and then a crafting bag, would be extremely cool and probably wipe out 90% of the problems). Just one of those would most likely do huge wonders.
    I really prefer the glamour log, but a crafting bag I feel is unnecessary and I agree with their stance of not adding specific inventory space if they can just... add more inventory space in general. Why have a crafting bag when you can just... have an extra page or two in general?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    I really prefer the glamour log, but a crafting bag I feel is unnecessary and I agree with their stance of not adding specific inventory space if they can just... add more inventory space in general. Why have a crafting bag when you can just... have an extra page or two in general?
    Sorry, to be specific as I think wow has something called a crafting bag and I didn't mean that, there are other MMOs that put all crafting items into an independent system. No crafting items in the game takes up space. This system can be designed differently and thus not quite comparable to inventory slots, the optimization opportunity does not make them 1:1 "I would just rather have normal slots".

    This is actually the similar statement to glamour log, though of course different optimization since they don't need # stored (depending on how done, FFXIV is honestly very close to just being called a bank rather than some other sort of system - like WoW's or other MMOs).

    Although- yes, if I had to be pick one I'd very easily pick glamour. But both would take me to like 130 slots total across all three retainers and my character space.
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  3. #43
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    I really prefer the glamour log, but a crafting bag I feel is unnecessary and I agree with their stance of not adding specific inventory space if they can just... add more inventory space in general. Why have a crafting bag when you can just... have an extra page or two in general?
    Because the main inventory is always accessible in all content, even battle content.
    Whereas a separate inventory that is inaccessible during battle content (world zones and duty instances) results in less server strain, fewer databases that are being constantly accessed.
    This is why you cannot access retainers, armoire, or glamour dresser except for in certain zones, why you can't access the saddlebag in instanced duties, and why you can't use a glamour plate in the field. Those databases are inaccessible, because various additional battle-related databases are being accessed.
    So a crafting bag, an additional inventory space, similar to the saddlebag, but is only accessible within towns and housing zones, and can be accessed by the crafting system, could potentially be a solution where simply 'adding more inventory space' isn't.
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  4. #44
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    Alexandre_Noireau's Avatar
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    Fredya Falenas
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    Look at those pages of keyitems not being used at all by anyone.
    Ok, i bet there is someone who might have the first page full - Go and deliver your quests.

    But the other two? They should be released FOR FREE to everyone, like right now.
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  5. #45
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    Soooo I has questions.

    Who here has been gearing low level (pre 50) characters lately?

    Is anyone also a sprout leveling crafting or gathering jobs?

    If you are level capped or not interested in this stuffs, do you recall the time when you were?

    I have family members and friends all running out of inventory space because they are "hording" gear they will use on alternative jobs. It becomes a whoooole butt load of gear when you begin getting into gathering and crafting as well. Of course you could say well, focus on one thing but that is not what excited sprouts do.

    Most of the dungeons they go through involve players skipping many of the loot chests leaving them over leveled and under geared. This reinforces the mentality that I should hold on to all the things because getting them in future times may be difficult. Heck, my uncle was told "We're not doing this, you don't need loot" as a first time sprout in Haukke Manor by a fricken battle mentor of all the things.

    Then there are the glamours from alliance raids which are significantly more difficult to undersize then farm.

    Then. Then! Then there are timed special nodes that only appear once every few hours, you bet the new player is storing those once they realize they must be present in a location during specific times.

    This all creates a run away issue problem that Square created yet sells a solution for. Hmm.. where have I seen this before?

    Now, one final question. If EA or Ubisoft sold you additional inventory space and resource harvesting ability yet charged a monthly cost for it would this be acceptable?

    Because if I head over to Swtorland I get fifteen tabs of personal storage per character (each almost the size of one retainers inventory) aaannnnd a legacy storage of fifteen more tabs.. for in game currency..

    I can also own five Strongholds but that is other discussion.

    Again, it is okay to not like everything about something you enjoy. It does not mean you hate it and does not mean we hate it. This community is weird..
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  6. #46
    Player Kyrj's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    Soooo I has questions.

    Who here has been gearing low level (pre 50) characters lately?

    Is anyone also a sprout leveling crafting or gathering jobs?
    So while I wait for EW I'm currently doing every single Jobs Resistance weapon while leveling my last few Jobs in Bozja. This means I have to have a spare weapon for them to equip if I want to turn in the quests. That's another 21 weapons I have to hold on to until I get the finished product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    So while I wait for EW I'm currently doing every single Jobs Resistance weapon while leveling my last few Jobs in Bozja. This means I have to have a spare weapon for them to equip if I want to turn in the quests. That's another 21 weapons I have to hold on to until I get the finished product.
    You can only have 5 stages active at any one time though, so you should have a rolling set of 5 jobs on the go, when one is complete, you start another one from the bottom.
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  8. #48
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    Look at those pages of keyitems not being used at all by anyone.
    Those are not actual slots. The screen is just designed that way to be consistent with the other inventory tab screens.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
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    I am. It's a case of poor inventory management if you're keeping everything as a "just in case".

    Crafting all uses the same gear - level your crafters at the same time and you only need one set. Level them at different stages and you'll only need one set per stage. At most this is 5 sets of gear. This coming from someone who VERY RECENTLY leveled all my crafters to 80.

    Gathering uses the same gear as well - this is the same thing.

    At lower levels (sub 30 I believe), there are 3 sets of gear one needs - DOW, DOM, and healing. Past level 30 this becomes 7 sets - One for tanks, 4 for melee dps, One for physical ranged DPS, one for magical ranged DPS, and one for healing. This is 9 sets total (including crafting and gathering). You should be rotating your gearsets to your lowest level.

    There is no "don't toss it" mentality because the game actively encourages you to toss items - GC turn ins, marketboard, desynthesizing.

    You don't need every crafting item. You don't need to keep every gathered item. This is a mentality that YOU created. Not Squeenix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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