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  1. #151
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    IMO all of that is OK for this game.

    For adults, nudity is OK. Sex is OK. There's nothing wrong with nude humans and it shouldn't bend us out of shape. At all. We all eat, we all sleep, we all defecate, and we all have sex. I regularly am amazed that we have no problem discussing the first three. Number four, though, we want to pretend doesn't exist. Well, some of us anyway.

    It's nuts. Why the shame? Because of the associated pleasure? Likely. We are irrational beings when it comes to things like sex.

    We are humans; we are sexual beings. Society currently proclaims that teens (13-18) can view mostly naked flesh. See: any PG-13 movie, television shows designed for teens, video games designed for teens, media designed for teens.

    Look, I get your point, you personally find partial nudity unnecessary in this game, either due to personal preference, or some desire to "save the kids". That's all good. However, society deems it all good right now; soapboxing ain't gonna do it. You're going to need to accept that humans in underwear / bathing suits are completely acceptable to show to teens.

    It is what it is. If this were 1821, 1521, or in the future year 2221, standards might not be the same. However, 2021 is where we are at, and those are the societal norms.
    People arguing about ratings is just ridiculous to begin with.
    Like I said this game is full of mature content that plays a repeated and very significant part of the story.

    This game is rated T because it's very tame in terms of blood, language and ultimately there is no actual nudity and 99.9% of gear is very covering.
    But the actual story itself is very adult.

    I really wish people could stop acting like teenagers are babies too.
    Whether people like it or not teenagers are already thinking about and/ or having sex.
    I do have problems with the sexualization of minors in a lot of Japanese media I do think it's problematic.
    But lets not pretend as if teenagers are like being scarred for life because they saw a butt.

    In a lot of European movies too nudity is fairly common, there's a ton of Swedish movies where people are running around completely in the nude that are considered perfectly fine for kids and stuff like nude beaches.
    No one is being harmed by seeing a human body.
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  2. #152
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    Agreed.

    To your point, I watch a lot of foreign television, and when it comes to television in the UK, Europe or Australia, they have very little problem with nudity and sex. Yes, there's the "watershed" (I dunno if they even call it that these days, but they used to; that's the hour (9pm?) after which showing nudity or using quite foul language is just fine for major TV broadcasting networks.) but by and large if there's a random butt or breast on TV, no one goes nuts.

    It's quite literally the exact opposite of how we Americans all freaked out to the max because Janet and Justin's Superbowl routine revealed that she actually has a breast! Who would have thunk?!? Lol. (And I use "we" collectively; I didn't personally have any other reaction than a slight eye-pop.) Regarding that particular event, it's amazing what the power of a half-revealed breast can do. Timberlake and Jackson still argue to this day - seventeen years later - that they had a "wardrobe malfunction," when it was obvious to anyone paying attention that their routine was planned. "Gonna have you naked by the end of this song," and the fact that the bra cup had snaps on it, and the fact that she was wearing a pastie... yeah, come on. It was planned, it was half a breast, and those that say it was inappropriate given the circumstances are complete hypocrites, since the commercials during the event showed more breast than Janet did.

    My gosh, I digress. Sorry bout that.

    Anyway, yeah, some partial nudity or even full nudity doesn't turn people into raving sex lunatics. Those lunatics are that way because they are mentally ill and need help, not because some video game they played when they were fourteen showed an exposed butt cheek.

    "But, but the video game made them nuts for sex!"

    Yeah, if that is the case then I still fall back on mental illness. A video game should not be making anyone into anything. A mentally healthy human being should be able to see nudity, even in real life - nevermind a video game - and then go on to be a fairly well-adjusted, productive member of society.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 08-21-2021 at 01:45 PM. Reason: Expand on my point.
    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    I'm sick of all these cat girls being half naked and in that disgusting 2b legging. Please let us disable this crap.
    What about cat boys in 2B leggings?
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  4. #154
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    if i can toggles off lalas then sure
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    Man If you think clothes in this game is revealing, turn on your tv on a channel that shows music videos..
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fungo View Post
    Man If you think clothes in this game is revealing, turn on your tv on a channel that shows music videos..
    But I play videos games to escape that degeneracy
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    But I play videos games to escape that degeneracy
    I dare you to toggle off my glamour IRL

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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    What about cat boys in 2B leggings?
    Absolute positive side of playing on sp4 is that the hunk of junk can hardly load all the slutglams around limsa's aetheryte. My brain does not ever have to work to parse out the wish fulfilment glams of everybody.

    Pity though, that the same limitation makes me miss all the cayboys and lizardboys at the cost of catgirls, lizardgirls, viera and hrothgar. Well, it is a fair trade.
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  9. #159
    Player Lenivy's Avatar
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    Those glamour you dont like are petfect example of ff14. Clown vs badass boss who in realityn is pathetic nobody with 0 skills to stop anybody, even a clown. Truly insipirng to see all those "hardcore msq villans!" Who get served by 2 or 3 things dressed like those on screenshot.
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  10. #160
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    All of you are non-canon to my story anyway. Those weird glamours are just delusions caused by the same head trauma that caused Iyami to give Leviathan two heads and Titan a four-wheeler.
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