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  1. #21
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    Equitable_Remedy's Avatar
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    Eristede Kell
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    As someone who started playing in Shadowbringers, here's what I'll say about Eureka: I'll never do it.

    I've gotten the ARR relic. I'm working on the HW relic. These were grinds, but they're quite chill—amenable to doing a little bit here and there until you get the weapons. Eureka, in contrast, seems like an extremely long grind and logistical pain—I game for fun, so I'll likely never touch this content. I'm clearly interested in doing past relics for the glamours, but the design of Eureka makes it unfun.

    I'm not mad at Eureka nor at anyone who likes it, but the it's not, I think, a design that should ever be repeated.
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  2. #22
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    Trobon's Avatar
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    Virtus Shields
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 73
    I'm kind of tired of people calling everything that doesn't suit their playstyle trash. There are dozens of different things you can do in this game that offer unique skins and rewards and just because one of them doesn't suit your style doesn't mean it needs to be cut from the game. I personally have zero interest in ever completing an Ultimate. I find the idea of spending months progging it, slowly moving inch by inch closer to being able to beat it to be an excruciating idea. I don't even really enjoy Savage raids that much tbh. However, I don't think the idea of them is trash because its content a lot of people enjoy.

    I like grinding mindlessly from time to time. I enjoy being able to turn off part of my brain and spend time just killing thousands of enemies. While OP might not enjoy that, to the point of insulting people who do (just because you target an insult at one user doesn't mean others won't fall under the same insult), that doesn't mean its trash. There is crafting, PvP, dungeons, extreme trials, raids, savage raids, ultimate raids, fishing, the gold saucer, and any number of other things to do which can earn you rewards. You don't need to get every glam in the game.
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  3. #23
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Pagos was by far the worst of the zones. It was even worse when it first released with ridiculous pevel requirements for fhe aetherytes. Pros and Hydatos were much better. Just had to remember to turn off run and walk a lot in Pyros because a good portion of the mobs aggroed to sound.
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  4. #24
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Eureka was why I quit the game back then. I figured enough time had passed that I should be able to avoid it or any other content like it when I came back during the last free trial period. I'm not ready to try Bozja for the relic weapon yet but if it is like Eureka I'll probably quit again.
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  6. #25
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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Eureka is.... Okay now. It's a bit of an annoyance near the end still but it's tolerable now. I went in recently to finally finish my RDM relic from there. Anemos was always fine but Pagos was literally the only thing this game has done that made me want to not play. You need to do the story in Eureka (up to Hydratos anyway) to get the TT cards but it at least isn't too bad now and you don't even need to do a weapon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
    Eureka was why I quit the game back then. I figured enough time had passed that I should be able to avoid it or any other content like it when I came back during the last free trial period. I'm not ready to try Bozja for the relic weapon yet but if it is like Eureka I'll probably quit again.
    Bozja is nowhere near as bad as Eureka was. It has some issues (DR is a mess if you don't PF it, general lack of stuff to buy, the relic designs are hit and miss) but otherwise an improvement. Either try them soon or wait until Endwalker is out and get some exp for your Sage/Reaper.
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  7. #26
    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I liked Pagos. All the other zones were too easy.
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  8. #27
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    Laeanna Duskwalker
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravor View Post
    I have just complete both bozja and eureka, while Bozja is for sure an improvement from eureka with more content and stuff happening, eureka is more challanging in its own way, its been a while since i have this feeling of being scared and chased around by actual deadly mobs that will kill you in one or two hits just like the good old MMORPG times, also the way they utilize the large eureka map with treasure hunting is genius design, its a shame that bozja didnt have that
    I really liked Eureka but Bozja really burnt me out. For Eureka you could chill a lot of the time and take it slow, but you're always running somewhere in Bozja. I find it horrible, I don't like running everywhere feeling rushed for hours and hours. It made me take a 6 month break from the game. A lot of people say it's improved but I find it's now targeted at a different sort of gamer
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  9. #28
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 72
    In a sense Eureka is a profitable adventure if you want to look at it that way, or as an incentive to get relic glamour, go through BA, etc. There are newer players who are getting into now, as you know the first Logos grind is nutty so people obviously will want to shortcut a few million to get the armor quicker. So there is that and of course other loot that sells since people just love doing bunnies and chest parties.

    Bozja doesn't have the same longevity of profits. There are really only two items that can be sold from DR Savage. Save the Princess minion and Gambler essence. I suppose the augmented BSF gear upgrades could fetch more premiums as people phase out of doing that and Castrum, and those are required to use DR savage upgrades.

    I think that's one thing that is missed from Bozja, more profit potential. Plus they did give us the DR hair as a pity buy for Dalriada coins. I suppose fragments could go higher as Bozja phases out too, just like the more expensive Logos.
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  10. #29
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 100
    I prefer Eureka over the Save The Queen content any day.
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  11. #30
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    The best thing about Eurekas were actual setting up the NM or casually slaughtering so many enemies.
    There is something absolutely satisfying being able to get nice groups and just... exterminate every max level mob just to spawn the big monster.

    In a way, Eureka felt much closer to XII as well in terms of grinding even though it is more to XI. The only downside is not having a sped up animation button to make levelling faster (which is my gripe, each zone you start is just a massive chore and I am glad of the logs. Nothing makes me more dreadful than seeing many NM popped but you are still so behind that you won't get anything).

    Eureka with the mobs is more engaging since you gotta take in consideration weather, day/night and such which Bozja absolutely lacks but makes up for CE and raids.
    I still hate Pagos and Hydatos, I don't see how the latter is an improvement... Pyros felt the best.
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