Boy is Eureka trash

[TeraRamis]

They're beautiful zones - I love the weather, and how big they are - but everything else is just horrible. I'm working my way towards the Pyros lance, and I just finished my first weapon and entered Pagos... and... it really is just a terrible place. You no longer seem to get anything from normal mob kills but still have to grind thousands of them just to level up enough to begin to make progress on the NM kills, and then the entire process appears to be repeated in the Pyros zone.

I just... why is this like this? It was only an expansion ago - it's not like it's particularly old content. This was vintage 2018 MMORPG design... not 2005. And someone thought that was a good idea? Moreover, whereas the ARR and HW artifacts have gotten consistently easier to acquire with time (and it's not like there's a whole herd of people out there moaning about exclusivity), working towards Eureka (and Bozjan) weapons/gear is (and will soon be for Bozjan) a purely aesthetic pursuit, and yet you still have to spend 80-100 hours grinding at it? For a skin? Why?

[_Koneko_]

it's not that bad as someone who mostly solo'ed euruka it gets worse as you get into the lost action part though terrible drop rates

[Minarisweet]

I like grinding idk... I wish I could do eureka for the first time again tbh.

[Sotaris]

I hated it in SB. I heard it's much better now. I'll probably eventually get around to do it on this character for the glamour.

[Lunalepsy]

They're beautiful zones - I love the weather, and how big they are - but everything else is just horrible. I'm working my way towards the Pyros lance, and I just finished my first weapon and entered Pagos... and... it really is just a terrible place. You no longer seem to get anything from normal mob kills but still have to grind thousands of them just to level up enough to begin to make progress on the NM kills, and then the entire process appears to be repeated in the Pyros zone.

I just... why is this like this? It was only an expansion ago - it's not like it's particularly old content. This was vintage 2018 MMORPG design... not 2005. And someone thought that was a good idea? Moreover, whereas the ARR and HW artifacts have gotten consistently easier to acquire with time (and it's not like there's a whole herd of people out there moaning about exclusivity), working towards Eureka (and Bozjan) weapons/gear is (and will soon be for Bozjan) a purely aesthetic pursuit, and yet you still have to spend 80-100 hours grinding at it? For a skin? Why?

Old-school gaming gone wrong.

[NessaWyvern]

Yeah, I hated pagos too. I did it when it came out, and I grinded for so long, that I got burst blood vessels on my ankles from sitting for too long. Turns out I inherited poor circulation issues from my mum, and didn't know before that, lol.

[Elladie]

Lots of people loved Eureka. I was one of them. Was pretty much the best part of SB for me. It was fun to do solo or with friends for a couple of hours at a time; I looked forward to logging in to enjoy it. Enjoyed the story, loved the zones, loved the nostalgia for XI. Much better than Bozjia (or however you spell it) which I haven't enjoyed at all. Fighting Penthesilea was one of my favourite boss battles for a while.

Guess what? Different people like different things.

[TeraRamis]

Lots of people loved Eureka. I was one of them. Was pretty much the best part of SB for me. It was fun to do solo or with friends for a couple of hours at a time; I looked forward to logging in to enjoy it. Enjoyed the story, loved the zones, loved the nostalgia for XI. Much better than Bozjia (or however you spell it) which I haven't enjoyed at all. Fighting Penthesilea was one of my favourite boss battles for a while.

Guess what? Different people like different things.

Good for you. Unfortunately, mindless mob grinding for 5+ hours just so you can unlock access to the NMs is not my idea of fun. It's closer, in fact, to torture. And given your sarcasm, I feel no misgivings about flipping it around and saying: guess what? It doesn't say much about you that you find something so hollow so entertaining.

[Hausti]

Best thing about eureka: bunny fates ^^

[Banim]

It's alright, the content is not for everybody and I understand the people who hate it. I personally enjoyed it when it was new because I sorta like games that get unforgiving or hostile towards the player (Pagos, for example, has a lot of design choices I like, but again, I completely understand some people absolutely hate the concept of jumping off cliffs to reach caves and dragons in narrow passages) and I enjoy it more now that I have all the elemental power gear and there's Echo. Makes me feel overpowered and useful, things are faster for everybody in general, and it's a great source of money.