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    TeraRamis's Avatar
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    Tiffah Lockhart
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    Boy is Eureka trash

    They're beautiful zones - I love the weather, and how big they are - but everything else is just horrible. I'm working my way towards the Pyros lance, and I just finished my first weapon and entered Pagos... and... it really is just a terrible place. You no longer seem to get anything from normal mob kills but still have to grind thousands of them just to level up enough to begin to make progress on the NM kills, and then the entire process appears to be repeated in the Pyros zone.

    I just... why is this like this? It was only an expansion ago - it's not like it's particularly old content. This was vintage 2018 MMORPG design... not 2005. And someone thought that was a good idea? Moreover, whereas the ARR and HW artifacts have gotten consistently easier to acquire with time (and it's not like there's a whole herd of people out there moaning about exclusivity), working towards Eureka (and Bozjan) weapons/gear is (and will soon be for Bozjan) a purely aesthetic pursuit, and yet you still have to spend 80-100 hours grinding at it? For a skin? Why?
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    _Koneko_'s Avatar
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    Matoya Rhul
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    Omega
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    it's not that bad as someone who mostly solo'ed euruka it gets worse as you get into the lost action part though terrible drop rates
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    "Stop right there, criminal scum! Nobody breaks the terms of service on my watch! I'm reporting your illegal mods, now enjoy your time in gm jail."

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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    It's like this because it was designed to let you experience how old MMOs like FF11 worked where it's very grindy, you kill mobs to level instead of doing quests and mobs are actually threatening.

    Most people just did the weekly challenge log or NM trains instead. NMs are a lot like fates, but you spawn them by killing lots of the same mob. They sometimes have a lot of mechanics and they scale to the amount of people in the instance.

    It used to take a lot longer to kill everything, but now you get the echo that makes it easier. You can find an Elemental and if you stand near one you get a buff that makes it easier to survive and increases experience. You can use level 80 food and buy a body item just outside of eureka if you exchange for an item from the market board and it increases your elemental stat.

    When you get through the quest you should complete your magia board so you can assign points in an element. You can rotate it to be the same element as your enemy so you take less damage, or the opposite element so it's easy to kill but you take more damage.

    It's casual content and didn't take very long, at least when it was current because of the amount of players, but there are a lot of advantages for helping you solo now.

    Quote Originally Posted by _Koneko_ View Post
    it's not that bad as someone who mostly solo'ed euruka it gets worse as you get into the lost action part though terrible drop rates
    If you can find them on the market board it makes it a lot simpler and you don't require all of them.
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    Ara Amai
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    I like grinding idk... I wish I could do eureka for the first time again tbh.
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I hated it in SB. I heard it's much better now. I'll probably eventually get around to do it on this character for the glamour.
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    They're beautiful zones - I love the weather, and how big they are - but everything else is just horrible. I'm working my way towards the Pyros lance, and I just finished my first weapon and entered Pagos... and... it really is just a terrible place. You no longer seem to get anything from normal mob kills but still have to grind thousands of them just to level up enough to begin to make progress on the NM kills, and then the entire process appears to be repeated in the Pyros zone.

    I just... why is this like this? It was only an expansion ago - it's not like it's particularly old content. This was vintage 2018 MMORPG design... not 2005. And someone thought that was a good idea? Moreover, whereas the ARR and HW artifacts have gotten consistently easier to acquire with time (and it's not like there's a whole herd of people out there moaning about exclusivity), working towards Eureka (and Bozjan) weapons/gear is (and will soon be for Bozjan) a purely aesthetic pursuit, and yet you still have to spend 80-100 hours grinding at it? For a skin? Why?
    Old-school gaming gone wrong.
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Yeah, I hated pagos too. I did it when it came out, and I grinded for so long, that I got burst blood vessels on my ankles from sitting for too long. Turns out I inherited poor circulation issues from my mum, and didn't know before that, lol.
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    Elai Khatahdyn
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    Omega
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    Lots of people loved Eureka. I was one of them. Was pretty much the best part of SB for me. It was fun to do solo or with friends for a couple of hours at a time; I looked forward to logging in to enjoy it. Enjoyed the story, loved the zones, loved the nostalgia for XI. Much better than Bozjia (or however you spell it) which I haven't enjoyed at all. Fighting Penthesilea was one of my favourite boss battles for a while.

    Guess what? Different people like different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
    Lots of people loved Eureka. I was one of them. Was pretty much the best part of SB for me. It was fun to do solo or with friends for a couple of hours at a time; I looked forward to logging in to enjoy it. Enjoyed the story, loved the zones, loved the nostalgia for XI. Much better than Bozjia (or however you spell it) which I haven't enjoyed at all. Fighting Penthesilea was one of my favourite boss battles for a while.

    Guess what? Different people like different things.
    Good for you. Unfortunately, mindless mob grinding for 5+ hours just so you can unlock access to the NMs is not my idea of fun. It's closer, in fact, to torture. And given your sarcasm, I feel no misgivings about flipping it around and saying: guess what? It doesn't say much about you that you find something so hollow so entertaining.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    Good for you. Unfortunately, mindless mob grinding for 5+ hours just so you can unlock access to the NMs is not my idea of fun. It's closer, in fact, to torture. And given your sarcasm, I feel no misgivings about flipping it around and saying: guess what? It doesn't say much about you that you find something so hollow so entertaining.
    I guess slinging insults around is how you operate when people have differing opinions now?

    You probably had to have been there to know what some people liked it.
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