Haurchefant isn't bisexual (spoilers)

[Seraph_Immanuel]

It doesn't matter that not every player will use Fantasia. Every player can use Fantasia

You're conflating what is possible with what is actual. It's possible for you to murder, but that doesn't make you a murderer. You'd only be a murderer once you've actualized that possibility.

and it will in no way change Haurchefant's flirtations. This means that player sex is irrelevant, and that Haurchefant is Bi.

Each player character's story is self-contained and isolated. If they weren't, then we'd have to say that poor Haurchefant has gone through the same dialogue and scenes millions of times, including his death. Since this is not the case, then the epistemic warrant to justify the claim that Haurchefant is heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual is only valid within each particular player character's story. The player character who uses Fantasia will receive epistemic warrant that justifies the claim that Haurchefant is bisexual. The player character who is female will receive epistemic warrant that justifies the claim that Haurchefant is heterosexual. And the player character who is male will receive epistemic warrant that justifies the claim that Haurchefant is homosexual. But all of these scenarios are self-contained and do not bleed into each other. From the perspective of the player character who is female, the events of your player character who may be male do not exist.

Your argument is extremely obtuse, and you know it.

Actually, I believe my argument to be quite good and I don't believe you've been successful in refuting it. And you know it.

Check mate!

[redheadturk]

You're conflating what is possible with what is actual. It's possible for you to murder, but that doesn't make you a murderer. You'd only be a murderer once you've actualized that possibility.

Each player character's story is self-contained and isolated. If they weren't, then we'd have to say that poor Haurchefant has gone through the same dialogue and scenes millions of times, including his death. Since this is not the case, then the epistemic warrant to justify the claim that Haurchefant is heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual is only valid within each particular player character's story. The player character who uses Fantasia will receive epistemic warrant that justifies the claim that Haurchefant is bisexual. The player character who is female will receive epistemic warrant that justifies the claim that Haurchefant is heterosexual. And the player character who is male will receive epistemic warrant that justifies the claim that Haurchefant is homosexual. But all of these scenarios are self-contained and do not bleed into each other. From the perspective of the player character who is female, the events of your player character who may be male do not exist.

Actually, I believe my argument to be quite good and I don't believe you've been successful in refuting it. And you know it.

Check mate!

The canon WoL is male, which means that he is at the very least gay, but considering that there was also a female version of the canon WoL, it indicates being bisexual. [Yes, a female Derplander model does exist, she just never got used in game]

[HollowedDoll]

Him being a perv about his men and the WoL who can be potentially female makes him either gay or bi, pick your poison lmao.

[Seraph_Immanuel]

but considering that there was also a female version of the canon WoL

But it's not canon. You admitted that at the beginning of your post with, "The canon WoL is male."

[redheadturk]

But it's not canon. You admitted that at the beginning of your post with, "The canon WoL is male."

Because it is the one they use in their promotional material, but the fact that a female one that *they created* exists means both are technically canon, it's just that only the male is used for promoting.

[MilkieTea]

Haurchefant is attracted to the WoL. He doesn’t care about their gender.

Wow, you’re right… he’s not bi! He’s pan!

[Seraph_Immanuel]

Because it is the one they use in their promotional material, but the fact that a female one that *they created* exists means both are technically canon

Uh, no. That's not how canon works. I'm sure J. R. R. Tolkien had many ideas and revisions for his books, but only the ones that were published are canon. I don't see how you can say the female WoL is canon when the character isn't being implemented.

[ReynTime]

I don't see the point in being so bothered that there is an important MSQ character canonically bissexual.
Wish people would care this much for localization changes when it affects the personality of other characters like Midgardsormr too, though.

[Kranel_San]

Why does sexual orientation of NPCs matter...?

Apparently, some people believe it matters and they would like to insert it in video games...
Can't someone have fun away from all this?

[Derio]

We all know the sexuality of the WoL doesnt matter because us dating any NPC is not cannon. Same can be said for any dead character in the game.