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    Haurchefant isn't bisexual (spoilers)

    It's often said that Haurchefant is bisexual. The reason given to justify this claim is he hits on the player regardless of their sex in the Japanese dialogue. There's two problems with this argument.

    This is only canon in the Japanese dialogue, not the English. Meaning, if you're going through the English dialogue, then there's no good evidence to suggest that he's bisexual in your character's canon.

    Regardless, the real problem is that each player has their own canon. Haurchefant dies in the canon of every player but we wouldn't say this is evidence of him dying more than once. And this goes for other scenes and dialogue. Each player's canon is separated and self-contained. Therefore, if I play a male character and Haurchefant hits on me, then that's evidence that he's homosexual, but only in the canon for that particular character. If I play a female character and Haurchefant hits on me, then that's evidence that's he's a heterosexual, but only in the canon for that particular character. But we can't say "Well, he hit on this character... and then he hit on that other character, so therefore he's this" because the canon of these characters cannot exist at the same time. If we said that they did, then we'd also have to say that it's canon that Haurchefant has gone through the exact same dialogue and scenes millions of times, including his death.
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    Last edited by Seraph_Immanuel; 08-16-2021 at 11:47 AM.

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    Why does sexual orientation of NPCs matter...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Why does sexual orientation of NPCs matter...?
    I never said it did or didn't... nor is that the topic. I'm only responding to people who have made the claim that Haurchefant is bisexual.
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Seriously, the translation of the game is not very good. I know many dialogs in german and english and there are often bigger differences between them. I would not take an assumed gender of a npc too seriously.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph_Immanuel View Post
    I never said it did or didn't... nor is that the topic. I'm only responding to people who have made the claim that Haurchefant is bisexual.
    It's bi now? Last time I heard reddit community announced that he is homosexual. Both head canon ofc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Why does sexual orientation of NPCs matter...?
    Apparently, some people believe it matters and they would like to insert it in video games...
    Can't someone have fun away from all this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Why does sexual orientation of NPCs matter...?
    We are living in an age of ego and narcissism. Everything superficial matters more than essential actions.
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    He's WoL-sexual. Whatever your character is, he's into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Whatever your character is, he's into it.
    My character is a grave so he's definitely into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph_Immanuel View Post
    This is only canon in the Japanese dialogue, not the English. Meaning, if you're going through the English dialogue, then there's no good evidence to suggest that he's bisexual in your character's canon.
    Incorrect, Japanese Dialogue is considered more canon than the English one, people like Ethys Asher and others will often refer back to Japanese Dialogue, and sometimes German/French, for Lore references because it's well known that the english translation isn't that great. I'm not going to talk on the other topics you brouht up because there are others far more knowledgeable than me on that front.
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