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    Quote Originally Posted by Icycrits View Post
    This is the fundamental point of disagreement that a lot of the people defending the mount seem to not understand. This is the first mount they have added to the game that arguably belongs in the game, not in the store. This is an iconic boss in XIV, boss mounts are all sacred. Square Enix is testing the waters and seeing if they can get away with putting mounts in the store that belong in-game. Yes, I'm aware of Sleipnir and I don't like that mount either, but that's more of a gray area.

    So I disagree, the number of mounts per year isn't going up (yet) but the overstepping is. I mean, where else can you get an 8-seater in-game? It is getting worse.
    You make sleipnir cry. I always thought odins mount was iconic too but yeah. And where you can get an 8-seater in-game? In the next expansion, lol. Not that hard to understand. It's not like they can bring out a second set of mounts for the raid tiers. xD The first eden tier also had a 4 seater which was the only and first 4 seater in the entire game at that given time. But yeah. Sure. It's getting worse.

    I like the 8-seater whale tho. We also got the motorcycle back then and everyone was hyped. Not that wrong to tie stuff to events like the fanfest. What's next, the preorder mount is also bad? I think it's rather good than bad that they made the fanfest mount, especially for this fanfest which was the first exclusive online fanfest, more valuable. Ofc the design of the mount is...idk...i think it's ugly.

    Dunno how people can be so stingy about a bit of cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icycrits View Post
    This is the fundamental point of disagreement that a lot of the people defending the mount seem to not understand. This is the first mount they have added to the game that arguably belongs in the game, not in the store. This is an iconic boss in XIV, boss mounts are all sacred. Square Enix is testing the waters and seeing if they can get away with putting mounts in the store that belong in-game. Yes, I'm aware of Sleipnir and I don't like that mount either, but that's more of a gray area.

    So I disagree, the number of mounts per year isn't going up (yet) but the overstepping is. I mean, where else can you get an 8-seater in-game? It is getting worse.
    here we go:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...lease-consider...
    The comunity we deserve.
    O well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    The first eden tier also had a 4 seater which was the only and first 4 seater in the entire game at that given time. But yeah. Sure. It's getting worse.
    No it wasn't? The first four seater was the FFXV car mount from the collab event which came out during Stormblood in April. Eden didn't even release until July 30th. So not only are you wrong, but you have no idea what you're talking about and it's hard to take you seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icycrits View Post
    No it wasn't? The first four seater was the FFXV car mount from the collab event which came out during Stormblood in April. Eden didn't even release until July 30th. So not only are you wrong, but you have no idea what you're talking about and it's hard to take you seriously.
    Ah yeah forgot we got that one in stormblood. But yeah, good choice to react only to that, lol. It totally proves your opinion as the right one that we got another 4 seater through an event in the past which everyone could get and didn't cost money. Wait...a moment...that is an argument against you!

    Are you even "listening" to yourself? So we got the first 2 4-seater mounts through event and raid. Not through cashshop. Not through preorders or anything else. Weird, isn't it.

    But yeah it is getting worse. Now that they put one 2-seater again into the shop! We had no 2-seater this entire expansion we could earn ingame, right? Right? Yeah wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icycrits View Post
    No it wasn't? The first four seater was the FFXV car mount from the collab event which came out during Stormblood in April. Eden didn't even release until July 30th. So not only are you wrong, but you have no idea what you're talking about and it's hard to take you seriously.
    Whats the problem of be wrong in something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Ah yeah forgot we got that one in stormblood. But yeah, good choice to react only to that, lol. It totally proves your opinion as the right one that we got another 4 seater through an event in the past which everyone could get and didn't cost money. Wait...a moment...that is an argument against you!
    No one has any idea what your argument is because you don't have one. You are just making noise and stringing together random incorrect facts and assumptions. You don't have an argument. My entire point is that Square Enix is overstepping in the Mogstation by including mounts with features that are not accessible in-game. There is no eight-seater mount in the game right now, yet the whale exists which is proof that things are getting worse. Even if they add one in Endwalker, it doesn't change the fact that they sold this dumb mount off of features that were not accessible in-game to people who are paying their subscription.

    I think you are assuming that I wanted the Cruise Chaser mount to be a hard to earn mount, which I have never once stated. I would be okay with Cruise Chaser mount being a part of the last Make It Rain event for 2 million MGP so that even casual players could earn it. I would've been okay with it being in a moogle tomestone event for 200 tomestones and a lot of people would have resubscribed to play this game out of hype and would have made SE money while also rewarding people who already pay for the content drought this game is currently in.

    But now, the CC mount is not only worthless because it's just a swipe of your credit card for people who live in first world countries and completely devalues its worth, but it's also incredibly hard for people in certain countries such as Latin American countries because the amount of USD they earn is a lot lower than someone who lives in the US and a lot of them waste their entire disposable income just subscribing to this game. This mount is not accessible to them, but you are a privileged individual who only cares about what he can get so you are okay with this decision. Shameful, very shameful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icycrits View Post
    No one has any idea what your argument is because you don't have one. You are just making noise and stringing together random incorrect facts and assumptions. You don't have an argument. My entire point is that Square Enix is overstepping in the Mogstation by including mounts with features that are not accessible in-game. There is no eight-seater mount in the game right now, yet the whale exists which is proof that things are getting worse. Even if they add one in Endwalker, it doesn't change the fact that they sold this dumb mount off of features that were not accessible in-game to people who are paying their subscription.

    I think you are assuming that I wanted the Cruise Chaser mount to be a hard to earn mount, which I have never once stated. I would be okay with Cruise Chaser mount being a part of the last Make It Rain event for 2 million MGP so that even casual players could earn it. I would've been okay with it being in a moogle tomestone event for 200 tomestones and a lot of people would have resubscribed to play this game out of hype and would have made SE money while also rewarding people who already pay for the content drought this game is currently in.

    But now, the CC mount is not only worthless because it's just a swipe of your credit card for people who live in first world countries and completely devalues its worth, but it's also incredibly hard for people in certain countries such as Latin American countries because the amount of USD they earn is a lot lower than someone who lives in the US and a lot of them waste their entire disposable income just subscribing to this game. This mount is not accessible to them, but you are a privileged individual who only cares about what he can get so you are okay with this decision. Shameful, very shameful!
    You are just rambling here about iconic mounts. But you make it all up. It's your subjective opinion what is iconic it seems. If we go after what we see ingame, there is also Neros mount and Livias mount we have in the mogstore. It's not that hard to understand. Same as sleipnir. Only cause you think only cruise chaser is iconic it doesn't mean the other stuff isn't as much or as less iconic.

    You say it's the first offense, but it clearly isn't. You clearly think you can make up some facts about "This is the first iconic mount" and then come around with "But sleipnir isn't or isn't as much". And yeah about Neros and Livias mounts we don't talk at all it seems. That stuff is going on since the dawn of time. Since ARR.

    So yeah, think what you want i mean you clearly do that anyways in the most subjective way possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    If we go after what we see ingame, there are also Neros mount and Livias mount we have in the mogstore.
    If you are going to compare a recolored Magitek armor to this two seater, model swapping, well-animated iconic raid boss, then you are missing the point.

    Same as sleipnir.
    The reason I say Sleipnir is a gray area is because like the Magitek armors in the store, they are just the mounts to the iconic bosses. I don't like them being in the store either, I think it makes the game look really bad when new players go to farm Odin thinking they'll get his awesome mount but I'm forced to begrudgingly tell them, "actually it's bought with real money..." But I can overlook it because it's just an another horse and isn't really the focus of the boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icycrits View Post
    If you are going to compare a recolored Magitek armor to this two seater, model swapping, well-animated iconic raid boss, then you are missing the point.



    The reason I say Sleipnir is a gray area is because like the Magitek armors in the store, they are just the mounts to the iconic bosses. I don't like them being in the store either, I think it makes the game look really bad when new players go to farm Odin thinking they'll get his awesome mount but I'm forced to begrudgingly tell them, "actually it's bought with real money..." But I can overlook it because it's just an another horse and isn't really the focus of the boss.
    And the mogstore mounts getting more detailed and better is bad...why? So you want them basically to be bad mounts cause...that would make it better cause...reasons? I rather see good designed useful mogstore mounts than reskins/colors and bad designed mounts.

    And why the heck should we care about some people in latin america? Heck i don't even care about my neighbour and his wage. I can afford the mount. If someone else can't that is their problem, if you want it save up for it. If you don't want it or can't afford it then don't. It's called setting priorities. Only cause poor people or third world countries exist doesn't mean companies should stop making money. That is not how capitalism works.
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