Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

[Asari5]

As it should.
It was exactly the same in fact.

When something that clearly should be IN GAME content is put into a cash shop is always bad.

I wouldn't mind variant colors of these mounts being in the cash shop. But iconic mounts should be - at least in their original version/color - completely in game content.
I Pay a subscription to play IN GAME and be rewarded IN GAME.

It is unethical when they do this, so yeah, the outrage is completely legitimate.

then... who is going to decide which mounts are iconic? and they stil want to have mounts in the shop.... how many off these additional mounts are iconic enemies made into mounts and how many of them are uniconic to go into the shop? when is it decided? i mean... two years after the iconic whatever appeared? but then... its mount appearing may not make sense, so they would need to make even more efforts for the logic aspect.
should all player get it by moogle mail? or would you be happier if you have to do a giant grind like the awesome pterodactyl for crafting and gathering? so much grind most people never ever would get it because they dont have so much time?

[Waterscape]

Just stop talking about inflation and the price of the sub , you guys dont know anything about that just move on this thread have 36 page now and its going out of context

[LittleImp]

I think I'm starting to understand now. It's not about defending a corporation at the expense of your own self-interests.

It's really just about having fun antagonizing people, particularly those who are passionate or upset about something.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

I think I'm starting to understand now. It's not about defending a corporation at the expense of your own self-interests.

It's really just about having fun antagonizing people, particularly those who are passionate or upset about something.

Alternatively, some people just have realistic mindsets.

Companies want to make profit. The mogstation team, which is wholly separate from the FF14 dev team mind you, saw an opportunity to make profit with Cruise Chaser. Yoshi-P had many years to have the main dev team implement the mount into the game himself yet chose not to do so; chances are it was never on the agenda for them. It's not antagonizing to give people the straight facts that CC was 99.99999999999999999% likely to never see the light of day if it wasn't for the mogstation team.

[LittleImp]

Alternatively, some people just have realistic mindsets.

Companies want to make profit. The mogstation team, which is wholly separate from the FF14 dev team mind you, saw an opportunity to make profit with Cruise Chaser. Yoshi-P had many years to have the main dev team implement the mount into the game himself yet chose not to do so; chances are it was never on the agenda for them. It's not antagonizing to give people the straight facts that CC was 99.99999999999999999% likely to never see the light of day if it wasn't for the mogstation team.

Well-adjusted people don't sit in a forum thread for hours at a time over the course of multiple days to graciously share their "realistic mindset" on an issue they claim to have little stake in. A few of the people in this thread essentially jump from thread to thread all day making antagonistic posts, even on subjects whose basic premise they claim to agree with. That's who my observation was directed at.

I don't actually care about the cash shop, I just think the dynamics that pop up in the debate around it are really bizarre.

[hydralus]

Alternatively, some people just have realistic mindsets.

Companies want to make profit. The mogstation team, which is wholly separate from the FF14 dev team mind you, saw an opportunity to make profit with Cruise Chaser.

And so far the mogstation team is the only one releasing more content with each expansion.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

And so far the mogstation team is the only one releasing more content with each expansion.

Considering my experience in game development, it's not really all that surprising that a team that's job is literally only some 3D model rigging & basic item database coding could push content out faster than a team that not only has to 3D model about 1000x more things, but also has to do eventing, balancing, coding, writing, QA testing, server coding, etc.

Also that argument is disingenuous, completely ignoring the fact there's been more many times more mounts in-game released over SHB than there has been in mogstation in the same timeframe of 5.0-present.

Mogstation:
-Cruisechaser
-Spriggan Stonecarrier
-Ruby Carbuncle
-Chocobo Carriage
-Lunar Whale
-Kingly peacock.

vs in-game, all for free from the same time frame of 5.0-present:
-Skyslipper
-Ramuh
-Eden
-7 gwibers
-Landerwaffe
-Polar Bear
-Tankard
-Great Vessel of Ronka & Resplendent vessel of Ronka
-Porxie
-Al-Ikili
-Deinonychus
-Magicked Card
-Antelope Stag
-Antelope Doe
-gilded Mikoshi
-Both Gabriel mounts
-Construct VI-S
-Construct 14
-Ehll Thou
-Jibanyan Couch
-Pterodon
-Albino karakul
-Dhamel
-Hybodus
-Morbol
-Ufiti
-Construct VII
-Forgiven Reticence
-Magicked Bed
-Battle Tiger & Tiger
-Amaro
-Circus Ahriman (during 2019 halloween event)
-Ironfrog Mover
-triceratops
-Several Feast mounts
-Cerberus
-Inciatntus
-big Shell
-Snowman

But please, do tell me how the mogstation team is getting so much more content out than the main dev team is as far as mounts. People are just emotionally charged about Cruise Chaser, that's it. There's hardly a lack of in-game grindable mounts. How dare the mogstation team release an item that was 99.9999% likely to never see the light of day, given it's been literally 5 years since CC came out, at which any point Yoshi-P could have decided to add it in-game as a mount with plenty of opportunities.

[Vahlnir]

Considering my experience in game development, it's not really all that surprising that a team that's job is literally only some 3D model rigging & basic item database coding could push content out faster than a team that not only has to 3D model about 1000x more things, but also has to do eventing, balancing, coding, writing, QA testing, server coding, etc.

Also that argument is disingenuous, completely ignoring the fact there's been more many times more mounts in-game released over SHB than there has been in mogstation in the same timeframe of 5.0-present.

Mogstation:
-Cruisechaser
-Spriggan Stonecarrier
-Ruby Carbuncle
-Chocobo Carriage
-Lunar Whale
-Kingly peacock.

vs in-game, all for free from the same time frame of 5.0-present:
-Skyslipper
-Ramuh
-Eden
-7 gwibers
-Landerwaffe
-Polar Bear
-Tankard
-Great Vessel of Ronka & Resplendent vessel of Ronka
-Porxie
-Al-Ikili
-Deinonychus
-Magicked Card
-Antelope Stag
-Antelope Doe
-gilded Mikoshi
-Both Gabriel mounts
-Construct VI-S
-Construct 14
-Ehll Thou
-Jibanyan Couch
-Pterodon
-Albino karakul
-Dhamel
-Hybodus
-Morbol
-Ufiti
-Construct VII
-Forgiven Reticence
-Magicked Bed
-Battle Tiger & Tiger
-Amaro
-Circus Ahriman (during 2019 halloween event)
-Ironfrog Mover
-triceratops
-Several Feast mounts

But please, do tell me how the mogstation team is getting so much more content out than the main dev team is as far as mounts. People are just emotionally charged about Cruise Chaser, that's it. There's hardly a lack of in-game grindable mounts. How dare the mogstation team release an item that was 99.9999% likely to never see the light of day, given it's been literally 5 years since CC came out, at which any point Yoshi-P could have decided to add it in-game as a mount with plenty of opportunities.

And just like that, the "less content than the Mogstation" argument has been completely obliterated. There's nothing left to piece it back together with.

[Kozh]

Who says it should be in the game? I'm trying to figure this out here. Do you own this business? Did you make it? What right besides being a consumer do you have? Some of you need to learn your place on this. Saying that it should be in the game, takes a level of ego that I can't even picture... snip

So interesting that you've been party to SE's internal policy discussions on this matter. And, of course, you've had a look at their books, too. I mean, how else could you so confidently make a statement with absolutely zero supporting evidence?

The same question can be asked to both of you too. Do you guys work at SE? Do you know every detail on how their budgeting and mog station profit works? Do you know how many % goes to the devs team? What if the subs price is not determined by mogshop? What's your evidence?

People have been saying this multiple times that we don't ask for the devs to completely shut down mog station. But putting CC, which has been asked for years and quite frankly fits more as TEA mount, into cash shop is a dick move.

They already raked in so much cash from all those fantasia, job boost, additional retainers, other services (renaming and server transfer), and the general glams; yet they still ask for more. And it's not like putting CC in game means no profit at all. For example, I planned to take a break (unsub) since May, but my static wants the morbol mount, so we still progging till now. That means I have paid for 3 months sub where as at first I didn't plan to.

[Kuroka]

IF they need extra money so much id honestly rather have em raise the sub 1-3€...