Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

[Vahlnir]

im sorry but no, this is not ok.
stop defending this type of thins couse " they need money", so far it was okay and on a nice " edge ".
now they take a step to far imo, no excuse is going to change my mind.

with this white knight mind set we would still be on 1.0 , stop defending what has no other point than to milk the player base.
it is not cool.

Okay, they don't need money. They want money. They love money. The entire point of running a business/corporation is to make money. The human race has been doing things to make money for thousands of years. This concept can't be new to you. There's a difference between being a "white knight" and being realistic. Most people I've seen are being the latter.

[TTiscancer]

Okay, they don't need money. They want money. They love money. The entire point of running a business/corporation is to make money. The human race has been doing things to make money for thousands of years. This concept can't be new to you. There's a difference between being a "white knight" and being realistic. Most people I've seen are being the latter.

Yet you are incentivizing them to do less for your money by giving it to them for a shitty mount that a few interns can whip up in a week.

[Zkieve]

Okay, they don't need money. They want money. They love money. The entire point of running a business/corporation is to make money. The human race has been doing things to make money for thousands of years. This concept can't be new to you. There's a difference between being a "white knight" and being realistic. Most people I've seen are being the latter.

so your ok for paying a subscription entry fee, expansion and now have to pay 30€ for a mount ,?
i have bought my fair share of thins i liked on the mogstation couse it was harmeless , this this to far imo.
i understand perfectly the company biass your sprouting , but u cant tell me you are ok to have a mount such as this being able to be purchaced by anyone in game.
off course im gonna go mad, and off course im gonna say its wrong to push it this far.
You want ffxiv to become like other Pay to win mmos? whats next the wow token?

Just becouse i love the game and dont want to see this type of player milking does not makes me unrealistic,it makes me a concerned consumer and long time fan, player and buyer.
Im not unrealistic for not wanting to pay(that i could) 30€ more for amount.

the whiteknight on this community is absolutly disgusting.

[Vahlnir]

so your ok for paying a subscription entry fee, expansion and now have to pay 30€ for a mount ,?
i have bought my fair share of thins i liked on the mogstation couse it was harmeless , this this to far imo.
i understand perfectly the company biass your sprouting , but u cant tell me you are ok to have a mount such as this being able to be purchaced by anyone in game.

I don't have to do any of that. I choose to. Why? Because I like what they are selling, game and all. And yes, I'm okay with this addition. Why (again)? I like what they are selling. It is a mount I have wanted for awhile. Would I have liked it to have been obtainable in game somehow? Sure, if it wasn't a royal pain and wasn't a Feast reward. What people don't seem to get is that Mogstation items are created solely for sale and wouldn't exist otherwise. Is that the case with this one? No one but SE knows. But it's there. It's done. Buy it, or don't. It's really that simple. You also disregarded everything I said about businesses and money despite it being completely relevant (if not the entire core) of this "debate". Just because you want to stick your fingers in your ears and yell LALALALALALALA...doesn't make it any less true.

[Icycrits]

Okay, they don't need money. They want money. They love money. The entire point of running a business/corporation is to make money. The human race has been doing things to make money for thousands of years. This concept can't be new to you. There's a difference between being a "white knight" and being realistic. Most people I've seen are being the latter.

I hate this stupid pervasive ideology that a company solely exists to make money. No, it doesn't. A company solely exists to create a product for its consumers, when a product is good the company is rewarded with money; when consumers notice they are getting shafted, they all collectively have the right to come together and say "This is not right." Why people like you and the dozens of others in this thread find the need to do free PR work for Square Enix against your own self interest will always blow my mind.

The product is the game, something we already pay for. I have been subscribed since Heavensward and buy all of their expansions. I even buy their stupid little emotes and some of their glamour items in the store because those are non-invasive microtransactions which I don't mind supporting. But when you take a mount like Cruise Chaser, something that has legitimate arguments for being in the game instead of in the store, of course people will be mad. Nickle and diming a player in a game is always a telltale sign of the beginning of the end, the corporate rot creeping in that will eventually hollow out the passionate dev team. Do you think Yoshi P is getting a big bonus for this stupid mount doing well? Do you think he wants this in the cash shop? No, this is where the big marketing people get promotions for printing money and start to make business decisions that will hurt the game in the future.

This isn't doomsaying, it's logical. This game isn't in decline, but neither was WoW when they introduced the Celestial Steed back in Wrath of the Lich King and I had people like you telling me the same replies, verbatim. "At least it's not a reward from arena, if you don't like it don't buy it." Now look at the state of the game. The marketing types have pushed to the top of the dev team and have now sucked the fun out of it, made players logging in about meeting quotas and statistics, and when people start to drop off because the game is bad instead of improving it they just push 6 month subscription bundles with awesome mounts to print money and people like the people in this thread enable this behavior.

Stop it. Just, stop it. Instead of telling people, "if you don't like the mount, don't buy it," how about if you like the mount and lack the self-control to not have it, just buy it and go away. But stop defending it.

[ZeroSash]

so your ok for paying a subscription entry fee, expansion and now have to pay 30€ for a mount ,?
i have bought my fair share of thins i liked on the mogstation couse it was harmeless , this this to far imo.
i understand perfectly the company biass your sprouting , but u cant tell me you are ok to have a mount such as this being able to be purchaced by anyone in game.
off course im gonna go mad, and off course im gonna say its wrong to push it this far.
You want ffxiv to become like other Pay to win mmos? whats next the wow token?

Just becouse i love the game and dont want to see this type of player milking does not makes me unrealistic,it makes me a concerned consumer and long time fan, player and buyer.
Im not unrealistic for not wanting to pay(that i could) 30€ more for amount.

the whiteknight on this community is absolutly disgusting.

You don't "have to pay $30 for a mount". Just don't buy the mount. Stop calling people white knights or sheep. wtf is wrong with you people? Just voice your complaints and quit attacking other people that don't agree with you.

[Vahlnir]

I hate this stupid pervasive ideology that a company solely exists to make money. No, it doesn't. A company solely exists to create a product for its consumers, when a product is good the company is rewarded with money; when consumers notice they are getting shafted, they all collectively have the right to come together and say "This is not right." Why people like you and the dozens of others in this thread find the need to do free PR work for Square Enix against your own self interest will always blow my mind.

The product is the game, something we already pay for. I have been subscribed since Heavensward and buy all of their expansions. I even buy their stupid little emotes and some of their glamour items in the store because those are non-invasive microtransactions which I don't mind supporting. But when you take a mount like Cruise Chaser, something that has legitimate arguments for being in the game instead of in the store, of course people will be mad. Nickle and diming a player in a game is always a telltale sign of the beginning of the end, the corporate rot creeping in that will eventually hollow out the passionate dev team. Do you think Yoshi P is getting a big bonus for this stupid mount doing well? Do you think he wants this in the cash shop? No, this is where the big marketing people get promotions for printing money and start to make business decisions that will hurt the game in the future.

This isn't doomsaying, it's logical. This game isn't in decline, but neither was WoW when they introduced the Celestial Steed back in Wrath of the Lich King and I had people like you telling me the same replies, verbatim. "At least it's not a reward from arena, if you don't like it don't buy it." Now look at the state of the game. The marketing types have pushed to the top of the dev team and have now sucked the fun out of it, made players logging in about meeting quotas and statistics, and when people start to drop off because the game is bad instead of improving it they just push 6 month subscription bundles with awesome bundles to print money and people like the people in this thread enable this behavior.

Stop it. Just, stop it. Instead of telling people, "if you don't like the mount, don't buy it," how about if you like the mount and lack the self-control to not have it, just buy it and go away. But stop defending it.

This is a hill I will gladly die on and I don't do so lightly. Money is what it's all about. SE is not our friend. The dev team is largely friendly, but they still want your money because it's what keeps the game going, therefore their jobs.

Just because you want to stick your fingers in your ears and yell LALALALALALALA...doesn't make it any less true.

[ReynTime]

This game's endgame IS glamour and mounts. So the fact they keep adding mounts that are associated with existing raid/duty lore as mogstation items IS the equivalent of freemium games selling p2w benefits.

[Zkieve]

I don't have to do any of that. I choose to. Why? Because I like what they are selling, game and all. And yes, I'm okay with this addition. Why (again)? I like what they are selling. It is a mount I have wanted for awhile. Would I have liked it to have been obtainable in game somehow? Sure, if it wasn't a royal pain and wasn't a Feast reward. What people don't seem to get is that Mogstation items are created solely for sale and wouldn't exist otherwise. Is that the case with this one? No one but SE knows. But it's there. It's done. Buy it, or don't. It's really that simple. You also disregarded everything I said about businesses and money despite it being completely relevant (if not the entire core) of this "debate". Just because you want to stick your fingers in your ears and yell LALALALALALALA...doesn't make it any less true.

like i said, becouse of people with actitud such as this we would still be on ffx1.0.

you are free to do whatever you like im free to complaint for whatever i feel like,
Business and money over player wants is a road you do not want to take, i understood completly your point but i dont agree with you .
theres a diference in not understanding your point and another one taking your point as completly invalid.

Following the " its a company to make money" line is what have brought down many many other games i loved.
The one who wants to stick your fingers in your ears and pretend there is not a problem is clearly not me.

[Ranaku]

This game's endgame IS glamour and mounts. So the fact they keep adding mounts that are associated with existing raid/duty lore as mogstation items IS the equivalent of freemium games selling p2w benefits.

The games "endgame" is what you want it to be. If you want to raid ultimates 24/7 just cause you like the fight that's also valid. If you want to just craft and destroy your soul while making more money than the syndicate then that is also valid, tho really insane.

Always weird when people think their perfect playstyle has to be also the goal for everyone else.