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    The less content than the mogstation argument was exaggerated nonsense from the start.

    This situation however has some frightening parallels to WoW.

    Anyone remember Warlords of Draenor?

    Patch 6.1 with it's laughable content update of the Selfie Camera and Twitter integration during a massive content drought, in an expansion that had the least amount of content up to that point? And a few days later they released a brand spanking new store mount for only 25$!

    Now let's see. Massive content drought in an expansion that arguably had less content than previous expansions? Another lackluster seasonal event update with a recolor of a mount we already got back in 2017? A brand spanking new mount on the store for only 29.99$! And that is after they already capitalized on the influx of new players by putting boosts on sale.



    But it sure is easier to stick your head in the sand.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 08-15-2021 at 03:28 AM.

  2. #372
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Tbh I think you’re looking way too much into it. It’s really not that deep. Not buying cash shop doesn’t make you more principled than people who do, nor does it make you much less of a “good little consumer”, considering cash shop or not, you’re still paying monthly to play a game by a AAA company. You’re not sticking it to the man. You’re just spending slightly less to support the same company.
    I never said or implied that I think of myself as better or more principled than the people who bought the mount nor that I'm going to stick it to the man, unlike other posters, and why would I: I've bought stuff from the mogstation myself and will continue to do so if there's content on it I want and find worth my money
    I just personally think think that it's wholly overpriced and not worth it, hence my comment earlier in the thread, and that people who demean others who have similar views as poor people being jealous seemingly have never experienced financial hardships, or at the very least, known someone who did, because they wouldn't talk like that otherwise.
    I don't know why you think I'm looking too much into it, though

    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Sometimes people just like a nice thing. It’s not a flex on anyone else, it’s not a sports car or a designer bag. It’s an asset in a video game they just want to enjoy. The mog station team makes it possible to enjoy the things they are buying, and in return the game gets extra funding. There’s still a ton of cool stuff in game to grind for.
    people can enjoy and buy whatever they want, but other people are also allowed to criticize said things and have a different opinion on it if they want to, I never said people aren't allowed to buy stuff from it in any of my posts lmao
    on the other hand, you have people doing just that, using this mount in some vain attempt to flex on people who don't like it for various, different reasons, because monetary reasons are the only reason, in their eyes, for why someone might not like it (or the whale)
    I mean, just look at their posts
    they can do whatever they want with their money, but treating 30 bucks as if it was a few pennies doesn't sit right with me, having gotten to known many poor families through work

    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    I said it in another thread (I think, there are like five of these?) but I’ll get worked up when they start doing gacha/lootbox/actual predatory practices. I don’t think they ever will, though. This model seems to be working just fine.
    I agree with you here, I don't think the CC is some writing on the wall kinda thing and is "just" poor form from SE, if you wanna call it that
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  3. #373
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    yeah some use it to flex.... others just like the mount and enjoy it. and what do people with things they enjoy? they post it on the internet
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  4. #374
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    Multi seaters are a premium, you are either going to work harder for them or pay.

    If you don't want to pay for anything extra they made content for that too, a free coca cola bear mount.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    I guess people having principles they follow or disagreeing with a companies choice to monetize their consumers is beyond some people, who apparently must define themselves over what they buy and how much of a nice little consumer they are
    There are customers more nice than me, I only ever used the free fantasias meanwhile there are people buying refill packs on a weekly basis. Nice try though.
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  5. #375
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    The less content than the mogstation argument was exaggerated nonsense from the start.

    This situation however has some frightening parallels to WoW.

    Anyone remember Warlords of Draenor?

    Patch 6.1 with it's laughable content update of the Selfie Camera and Twitter integration during a massive content drought, in an expansion that had the least amount of content up to that point? And a few days later they released a brand spanking new store mount for only 25$!

    Now let's see. Massive content drought in an expansion that arguably had less content than previous expansions? Another lackluster seasonal event update with a recolor of a mount we already got back in 2017? A brand spanking new mount on the store for only 29.99$! And that is after they already capitalized on the influx of new players by putting boosts on sale.



    But it sure is easier to stick your head in the sand.

    Thank you! Exactly that's the problem.


    The funny thing is, the first WoW shop mount came out in WotLK when WoW was on the top of their subscriber numbers. Then came Cataclysm. The game got worse and worse, lost more and more subscribers but they have put more and more payed "services" into the game.



    This could happen to FF14 too. If such shop mounts are a huge success then they will become the top priority and SE will propably take away dev resources FROM the game and put them into the Mogrystation.


    Cheers
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    Last edited by Larirawiel; 08-15-2021 at 03:43 AM.

  6. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    And just like that, the "less content than the Mogstation" argument has been completely obliterated. There's nothing left to piece it back together with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Many in this thread are just trying to disguise saying "i don't have $30".

    No, it's not that. I'm just "scared".

    Most of the MMORPGs I've played is the same history:

    Start to play > the game starts to gaining popularity > the company release a superfluous item on market for the game, nobody cares > more items added, and 1-2 person start to notice, but the majority say "they just need more money, these items are superfluous..." > more and more items added on market, and the game start to decay > everyone blame the market to have the best items for the game now.

    Maybe that was not the case, but I can't help worry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

  8. #378
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    No, it's not that. I'm just "scared".

    Most of the MMORPGs I've played is the same history:

    Start to play > the game starts to gaining popularity > the company release a superfluous item on market for the game, nobody cares > more items added, and 1-2 person start to notice, but the majority say "they just need more money, these items are superfluous..." > more and more items added on market, and the game start to decay > everyone blame the market to have the best items for the game now.

    Maybe that was not the case, but I can't help worry.
    I watched WoW circle the drain for years and yes, I viewed every game or MMO the exact same way as you do because of it. But it's really not like that here. The game is not in decline. Maybe it will be eventually. No one can see the future, but I think we'll be okay for awhile. Everything you are reading on the forums right now is an extreme overreaction to something trivial. Don't let that cloud your judgement. You will be better for it.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  9. #379
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I watched WoW circle the drain for years and yes, I viewed every game or MMO the exact same way as you do because of it. But it's really not like that here. The game is not in decline. Maybe it will be eventually. No one can see the future, but I think we'll be okay for awhile. Everything you are reading on the forums right now is an extreme overreaction to something trivial. Don't let that cloud your judgement. You will be better for it.
    Yes, maybe i'm wrong. But man, I F.... love this game, and I don't want greed to fall into this game too.

    I'm not here because I want to criticise SquareEnix, or because I don't have the money to buy the mount, but because I'm really scared that I will see my favorite MMORPG go down again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Why is it not from a Savage raid or an in-game reward instead?

    This is not meant to be a Mogstation evil thread but just trying to see reasons for it being in the Mogstation vs earning it in-game.
    Money.

    /10chars
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