Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

[BunniEclair]

I guess people having principles they follow or disagreeing with a companies choice to monetize their consumers is beyond some people, who apparently must define themselves over what they buy and how much of a nice little consumer they are

Tbh I think you’re looking way too much into it. It’s really not that deep. Not buying cash shop doesn’t make you more principled than people who do, nor does it make you much less of a “good little consumer”, considering cash shop or not, you’re still paying monthly to play a game by a AAA company. You’re not sticking it to the man. You’re just spending slightly less to support the same company.

Sometimes people just like a nice thing. It’s not a flex on anyone else, it’s not a sports car or a designer bag. It’s an asset in a video game they just want to enjoy. The mog station team makes it possible to enjoy the things they are buying, and in return the game gets extra funding. There’s still a ton of cool stuff in game to grind for.

I said it in another thread (I think, there are like five of these?) but I’ll get worked up when they start doing gacha/lootbox/actual predatory practices. I don’t think they ever will, though. This model seems to be working just fine.

[Rinhi]

Tbh I think you’re looking way too much into it. It’s really not that deep. Not buying cash shop doesn’t make you more principled than people who do, nor does it make you much less of a “good little consumer”, considering cash shop or not, you’re still paying monthly to play a game by a AAA company. You’re not sticking it to the man. You’re just spending slightly less to support the same company.

I never said or implied that I think of myself as better or more principled than the people who bought the mount nor that I'm going to stick it to the man, unlike other posters, and why would I: I've bought stuff from the mogstation myself and will continue to do so if there's content on it I want and find worth my money
I just personally think think that it's wholly overpriced and not worth it, hence my comment earlier in the thread, and that people who demean others who have similar views as poor people being jealous seemingly have never experienced financial hardships, or at the very least, known someone who did, because they wouldn't talk like that otherwise.
I don't know why you think I'm looking too much into it, though

Sometimes people just like a nice thing. It’s not a flex on anyone else, it’s not a sports car or a designer bag. It’s an asset in a video game they just want to enjoy. The mog station team makes it possible to enjoy the things they are buying, and in return the game gets extra funding. There’s still a ton of cool stuff in game to grind for.

people can enjoy and buy whatever they want, but other people are also allowed to criticize said things and have a different opinion on it if they want to, I never said people aren't allowed to buy stuff from it in any of my posts lmao
on the other hand, you have people doing just that, using this mount in some vain attempt to flex on people who don't like it for various, different reasons, because monetary reasons are the only reason, in their eyes, for why someone might not like it (or the whale)
I mean, just look at their posts
they can do whatever they want with their money, but treating 30 bucks as if it was a few pennies doesn't sit right with me, having gotten to known many poor families through work

I said it in another thread (I think, there are like five of these?) but I’ll get worked up when they start doing gacha/lootbox/actual predatory practices. I don’t think they ever will, though. This model seems to be working just fine.

I agree with you here, I don't think the CC is some writing on the wall kinda thing and is "just" poor form from SE, if you wanna call it that

[BunniEclair]

I never said or implied that I think of myself as better or more principled than the people who bought the mount nor that I'm going to stick it to the man, unlike other posters, and why would I: I've bought stuff from the mogstation myself and will continue to do so if there's content on it I want and find worth my money
I just personally think think that it's wholly overpriced and not worth it, hence my comment earlier in the thread, and that people who demean others who have similar views as poor people being jealous seemingly have never experienced financial hardships, or at the very least, known someone who did, because they wouldn't talk like that otherwise.
I don't know why you think I'm looking too much into it, though



people can enjoy and buy whatever they want, but other people are also allowed to criticize said things and have a different opinion on it if they want to, I never said people aren't allowed to buy stuff from it in any of my posts lmao
on the other hand, you have people doing just that, using this mount in some vain attempt to flex on people who don't like it for various, different reasons, because monetary reasons are the only reason, in their eyes, for why someone might not like it (or the whale)
I mean, just look at their posts
they can do whatever they want with their money, but treating 30 bucks as if it was a few pennies doesn't sit right with me, having gotten to known many poor families through work



I agree with you here, I don't think the CC is some writing on the wall kinda thing and is "just" poor form from SE, if you wanna call it that

And I never said people aren’t allowed to criticize the decision. I just think the doom and gloom and moral grandstanding over what is imo a pretty ugly optional mount is a bit much. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My bad, though. I assumed when you said “some people have principles” I read it with a different tone than you intended. Thanks for the detailed response to clarify! I agree with most of what you said about certain responses being in bad taste, chalking up to “lol sounds like poor people”. I just generally don’t think the whole cash shop is a big deal, and have a hard time imagining real people buying $30 game assets for any sort of flex reasons. While it’s not pennies, it’s definitely not a crazy amount of money to spend in general, unlike say the emotes that come with the free statue.

[TTiscancer]

And I never said people aren’t allowed to criticize the decision. I just think the doom and gloom.

You know it's a slippery slope that has ended in the exact same place in every MMO ever, right?

First "it's just a mount lol stop freaking out"

Then "it's just some minor stats that don't matter, stop freaking out lol"

Then it's "Oh you don't wanna invest 100e into the cash shop? TOO BAD GET FKED LOL!"

Look at BDO. Have fun playing that game without pets, weights and costumes that give massive benefits.

[BunniEclair]

You know it's a slippery slope that has ended in the exact same place in every MMO ever, right?

First "it's just a mount lol stop freaking out"

Then "it's just some minor stats that don't matter, stop freaking out lol"

Then it's "Oh you don't wanna invest 100e into the cash shop? TOO BAD GET FKED LOL!"

Look at BDO. Have fun playing that game without pets, weights and costumes that give massive benefits.

I’m just not really worried about it. They have showed time and again that they care about player QoL, and have thus far upheld their respect towards the playerbase. They aren’t my friends, but they’re not my enemy either. I enjoy playing the game and I’m not bothered by shiny extras that I can take or leave. And the fervor will die down like it always does every time they add something new, because people will realize nothing bad happened.

The only paid service that has impacted my gameplay in the slightest is retainers. Two is doable but it’s a struggle and becomes more and more unpleasant every expansion. That’s pretty much the only cash shop service I’m pissy about. Okay that and Hrothgar fantasias should be free.

[TTiscancer]

I’m just not really worried about it. They have showed time and again that they care about player QoL, and have thus far upheld their respect towards the playerbase. They aren’t my friends, but they’re not my enemy either. I enjoy playing the game and I’m not bothered by shiny extras that I can take or leave. And the fervor will die down like it always does every time they add something new, because people will realize nothing bad happened.

The only paid service that has impacted my gameplay in the slightest is retainers. Two is doable but it’s a struggle and becomes more and more unpleasant every expansion. That’s pretty much the only cash shop service I’m pissy about. Okay that and Hrothgar fantasias should be free.

And when the day comes when they add something you're not ok with, it's gonna be too late. It's not "fearmongering" or "doomsaying" when it has happened EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Doesn't matter if it's a US, Korean or Japanese MMO, it's always the same.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

And when the day comes when they add something you're not ok with, it's gonna be too late. It's not "fearmongering" or "doomsaying" when it has happened EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Doesn't matter if it's a US, Korean or Japanese MMO, it's always the same.

It'd be one thing if this hasn't been in a state of equilibrium for 7 years, but it has.


So yeah, it is fear mongering.

[BunniEclair]

And when the day comes when they add something you're not ok with, it's gonna be too late. It's not "fearmongering" or "doomsaying" when it has happened EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Doesn't matter if it's a US, Korean or Japanese MMO, it's always the same.

I don’t think it would be too late. This is a team that reshaped a dead on arrival flop into what it is today. When they misstep, every time, they answer to the playerbase. If nothing else, the team listens. Should they start to step out of line, truly step out of line and not just this overblown cosmetics panic, I can’t see them simply ignoring it. Especially if such a decision erased the trust they worked so hard to build to relaunch the game in the first place.

Being concerned is fine, I’m not going to stop you and healthy criticism is good. It has helped the game be better many times. But people coming out with the end is nigh signs every time something goes up in shop is tiresome and just a lot of fuss over business as usual.