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  1. #351
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    Alexandre_Noireau's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Saying that it should be in the game, takes a level of ego that I can't even picture.



    Help keep our sub fee low, and I <3 these people.
    Talking about ego, the self rightgeous CONSUMER

    Also, that last part is completely a lie.
    The subscription doesn't adjust not because the cash shop exists, it doesn't adjust because people would drop the game en masse. They are as much of an addict to us as us to them. So when they do these Unethical practices it's very clearly an insult towards the playerbase.
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    "The will of my friends has etched into my heart, and now ill transform this infinite darkness into eternal light
    Unmatched in heaven and earth, one body and one soul that challenge the gods!"

  2. #352
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    What right besides being a consumer do you have? Some of you need to learn your place on this.
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    im baby

  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    Talking about ego, the self rightgeous CONSUMER

    The subscription doesn't adjust not because the cash shop exists, it doesn't adjust because people would drop the game en masse.
    So interesting that you've been party to SE's internal policy discussions on this matter. And, of course, you've had a look at their books, too. I mean, how else could you so confidently make a statement with absolutely zero supporting evidence?
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  4. #354
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    The subscription doesn't adjust not because the cash shop exists, it doesn't adjust because people would drop the game en masse.
    And I wonder how they offset the cost of not adjusting the sub price with rising inflation so that way they can still make more profit for the CEO/shareholder reports while not having people quit on masse...oh wait.

    Make no mistake; mogstation is 90% the reason you enjoy a non-rising sub cost since 2013.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 08-15-2021 at 01:44 AM.

  5. #355
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    As it should.
    It was exactly the same in fact.

    When something that clearly should be IN GAME content is put into a cash shop is always bad.

    I wouldn't mind variant colors of these mounts being in the cash shop. But iconic mounts should be - at least in their original version/color - completely in game content.
    I Pay a subscription to play IN GAME and be rewarded IN GAME.

    It is unethical when they do this, so yeah, the outrage is completely legitimate.
    then... who is going to decide which mounts are iconic? and they stil want to have mounts in the shop.... how many off these additional mounts are iconic enemies made into mounts and how many of them are uniconic to go into the shop? when is it decided? i mean... two years after the iconic whatever appeared? but then... its mount appearing may not make sense, so they would need to make even more efforts for the logic aspect.
    should all player get it by moogle mail? or would you be happier if you have to do a giant grind like the awesome pterodactyl for crafting and gathering? so much grind most people never ever would get it because they dont have so much time?
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  6. #356
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    Just stop talking about inflation and the price of the sub , you guys dont know anything about that just move on this thread have 36 page now and its going out of context
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  7. #357
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    I think I'm starting to understand now. It's not about defending a corporation at the expense of your own self-interests.

    It's really just about having fun antagonizing people, particularly those who are passionate or upset about something.
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  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I think I'm starting to understand now. It's not about defending a corporation at the expense of your own self-interests.

    It's really just about having fun antagonizing people, particularly those who are passionate or upset about something.
    Alternatively, some people just have realistic mindsets.

    Companies want to make profit. The mogstation team, which is wholly separate from the FF14 dev team mind you, saw an opportunity to make profit with Cruise Chaser. Yoshi-P had many years to have the main dev team implement the mount into the game himself yet chose not to do so; chances are it was never on the agenda for them. It's not antagonizing to give people the straight facts that CC was 99.99999999999999999% likely to never see the light of day if it wasn't for the mogstation team.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 08-15-2021 at 02:05 AM.

  9. #359
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    Make no mistake; mogstation is 90% the reason you enjoy a non-rising sub cost since 2013.
    You have the numbers?

    Because for near a decade i've seen the lack and failures in service of the game - Making me wish the sub would increase.
    For years the excuse of the cash shop defenders is that they provide a better service thanks to it - Yet service is the same if not worse as time goes by.

    So please, you have any link between the cash shop existence and the actual quality and price of the product being produced and delivered?


    That japanese corporates are more moderate than their american counterparts when it comes to show-off their profits (ala bobby kotick).
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    "The will of my friends has etched into my heart, and now ill transform this infinite darkness into eternal light
    Unmatched in heaven and earth, one body and one soul that challenge the gods!"

  10. #360
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    Honestly starting to want to buy the thing just to offset someone who isn't. Yes, I'm that petty.
    I bought it immediately.

    Many in this thread are just trying to disguise saying "i don't have $30".
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