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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I think I'm starting to understand now. It's not about defending a corporation at the expense of your own self-interests.

    It's really just about having fun antagonizing people, particularly those who are passionate or upset about something.
    Alternatively, some people just have realistic mindsets.

    Companies want to make profit. The mogstation team, which is wholly separate from the FF14 dev team mind you, saw an opportunity to make profit with Cruise Chaser. Yoshi-P had many years to have the main dev team implement the mount into the game himself yet chose not to do so; chances are it was never on the agenda for them. It's not antagonizing to give people the straight facts that CC was 99.99999999999999999% likely to never see the light of day if it wasn't for the mogstation team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    Alternatively, some people just have realistic mindsets.

    Companies want to make profit. The mogstation team, which is wholly separate from the FF14 dev team mind you, saw an opportunity to make profit with Cruise Chaser. Yoshi-P had many years to have the main dev team implement the mount into the game himself yet chose not to do so; chances are it was never on the agenda for them. It's not antagonizing to give people the straight facts that CC was 99.99999999999999999% likely to never see the light of day if it wasn't for the mogstation team.
    Well-adjusted people don't sit in a forum thread for hours at a time over the course of multiple days to graciously share their "realistic mindset" on an issue they claim to have little stake in. A few of the people in this thread essentially jump from thread to thread all day making antagonistic posts, even on subjects whose basic premise they claim to agree with. That's who my observation was directed at.

    I don't actually care about the cash shop, I just think the dynamics that pop up in the debate around it are really bizarre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    Alternatively, some people just have realistic mindsets.

    Companies want to make profit. The mogstation team, which is wholly separate from the FF14 dev team mind you, saw an opportunity to make profit with Cruise Chaser.
    And so far the mogstation team is the only one releasing more content with each expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    And so far the mogstation team is the only one releasing more content with each expansion.
    Considering my experience in game development, it's not really all that surprising that a team that's job is literally only some 3D model rigging & basic item database coding could push content out faster than a team that not only has to 3D model about 1000x more things, but also has to do eventing, balancing, coding, writing, QA testing, server coding, etc.

    Also that argument is disingenuous, completely ignoring the fact there's been more many times more mounts in-game released over SHB than there has been in mogstation in the same timeframe of 5.0-present.

    Mogstation:
    -Cruisechaser
    -Spriggan Stonecarrier
    -Ruby Carbuncle
    -Chocobo Carriage
    -Lunar Whale
    -Kingly peacock.

    vs in-game, all for free from the same time frame of 5.0-present:
    -Skyslipper
    -Ramuh
    -Eden
    -7 gwibers
    -Landerwaffe
    -Polar Bear
    -Tankard
    -Great Vessel of Ronka & Resplendent vessel of Ronka
    -Porxie
    -Al-Ikili
    -Deinonychus
    -Magicked Card
    -Antelope Stag
    -Antelope Doe
    -gilded Mikoshi
    -Both Gabriel mounts
    -Construct VI-S
    -Construct 14
    -Ehll Thou
    -Jibanyan Couch
    -Pterodon
    -Albino karakul
    -Dhamel
    -Hybodus
    -Morbol
    -Ufiti
    -Construct VII
    -Forgiven Reticence
    -Magicked Bed
    -Battle Tiger & Tiger
    -Amaro
    -Circus Ahriman (during 2019 halloween event)
    -Ironfrog Mover
    -triceratops
    -Several Feast mounts
    -Cerberus
    -Inciatntus
    -big Shell
    -Snowman

    But please, do tell me how the mogstation team is getting so much more content out than the main dev team is as far as mounts. People are just emotionally charged about Cruise Chaser, that's it. There's hardly a lack of in-game grindable mounts. How dare the mogstation team release an item that was 99.9999% likely to never see the light of day, given it's been literally 5 years since CC came out, at which any point Yoshi-P could have decided to add it in-game as a mount with plenty of opportunities.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 08-15-2021 at 03:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    Considering my experience in game development, it's not really all that surprising that a team that's job is literally only some 3D model rigging & basic item database coding could push content out faster than a team that not only has to 3D model about 1000x more things, but also has to do eventing, balancing, coding, writing, QA testing, server coding, etc.

    Also that argument is disingenuous, completely ignoring the fact there's been more many times more mounts in-game released over SHB than there has been in mogstation in the same timeframe of 5.0-present.

    Mogstation:
    -Cruisechaser
    -Spriggan Stonecarrier
    -Ruby Carbuncle
    -Chocobo Carriage
    -Lunar Whale
    -Kingly peacock.

    vs in-game, all for free from the same time frame of 5.0-present:
    -Skyslipper
    -Ramuh
    -Eden
    -7 gwibers
    -Landerwaffe
    -Polar Bear
    -Tankard
    -Great Vessel of Ronka & Resplendent vessel of Ronka
    -Porxie
    -Al-Ikili
    -Deinonychus
    -Magicked Card
    -Antelope Stag
    -Antelope Doe
    -gilded Mikoshi
    -Both Gabriel mounts
    -Construct VI-S
    -Construct 14
    -Ehll Thou
    -Jibanyan Couch
    -Pterodon
    -Albino karakul
    -Dhamel
    -Hybodus
    -Morbol
    -Ufiti
    -Construct VII
    -Forgiven Reticence
    -Magicked Bed
    -Battle Tiger & Tiger
    -Amaro
    -Circus Ahriman (during 2019 halloween event)
    -Ironfrog Mover
    -triceratops
    -Several Feast mounts

    But please, do tell me how the mogstation team is getting so much more content out than the main dev team is as far as mounts. People are just emotionally charged about Cruise Chaser, that's it. There's hardly a lack of in-game grindable mounts. How dare the mogstation team release an item that was 99.9999% likely to never see the light of day, given it's been literally 5 years since CC came out, at which any point Yoshi-P could have decided to add it in-game as a mount with plenty of opportunities.
    And just like that, the "less content than the Mogstation" argument has been completely obliterated. There's nothing left to piece it back together with.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    And just like that, the "less content than the Mogstation" argument has been completely obliterated. There's nothing left to piece it back together with.
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