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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    You expect anything different from them at this point?

    In any case, back onto the topic at hand (or what is left of it, at least!) The main issue is when the houses were purchased. Using what Jojoya had stated earlier as example, the Mateus "Hoarders". They did it when it was a dead world, only to get hate later when people claim they lost their chance when they had already shown they weren't going to move to Mateus to get the housing. In that case, the player has no ground to stand on.

    I'm also more-so on the fence that an FC owning multiple houses is fine, provided they actually make use of the land they own. Such as growing in their gardens, decorating and such. Instead of just buying it for e-flexing power.

    In that respect, I personally believe the separation of "Private" wards and "FC wards" could (on paper) fix a few issues. Splitting apart the house-hunting horde into smaller groups, based on their personal desires. Meaning server burden is more spread out, making it harder for bots to flood that particular district. (Note. Hard, not Impossible.) not to mention less overall competition per plot, meaning chances are higher. (were it not for the Lottery system.. Plenty of fangs on that topic, but I feel i've said my piece about that in other threads)

    Doesn't fix the inherent supply issue we have, which is (again, on paper) an easy fix with just elevating the Apartments to house-esque levels of equality. So that the only reason to buy a ward house is the physical property, rather than gardening / size. But that is a pipe-dream at this point.
    Eh, I tend to teeter away from telling people what to do with their houses. Multi-home owning in general tweaks me the wrong way. (Those that aren't grandfathered at least.) But only because of the limited housing. If SE were to implement instanced housing or add more than enough wards, or even increase the size of apartments, I think this wouldn't be a problem. Who cares if someone owns multiple homes at that point, everyone has reasonable access to housing that isn't a tiny one room apartment.
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  2. 08-14-2021 03:41 AM

  3. #62
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Ok, gonna gather thoughts and not do a massive series of edits as that's just generally cleaner....

    Let's start with the entire thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    No. My FC has three active players atm (including me). The rest either play very sporadically or are taking a break before the expac. Why should we lose our house because you think we should? We paid the money for it, we decorated it collectively. We have FC rooms (including ones for our members who are out on breaks and probably will return in Nov.) We've got a workshop with everything unlocked and both airships and submersibles at max level. We have friends come over from other FCs to hang out or roleplay.

    Why should we lose all of that? Because we're one active member short? In an FC with 30 members? (18 separate accounts, and a bunch of alts).

    People need to stop trying to take away from players. This is not a fix. The fix is pressuring SE to either give us more wards or finally institute instanced housing larger than just apartments.
    Given the context of what we're discussing (as RMT is known to be used with shell FCs which are known to be used by FCs to flex with housing), I felt this was ambiguous, which is why I asked for clarification:

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Can you clarify this point?
    And you did with:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Very simple, we as an FC together collected the gil to pay for us to get exactly (1) house. That we all share.
    I responded saying I was only seeking clarification on that point and why with:

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    There have been many that have exchanged all sorts of RL and crypto currency for homes, had to verify as "money" is a bit ambiguous whereas gil is not.
    You do not accept this explanation because (to you) apparently I'm some sort of spawn of Zodiark:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Seriously? Why would you even assume that? Don't be disingenuous.
    Knowing that a lot of the people that do not like me do so because I am fighting to get the exploits in the FC and housing system that are enabling them to take on more land than they rightfully should, and many of those are part of the hate club, that's why I gave you the honest answer of:

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Because I wouldn't put it past members of the hate club to do this.
    Again, I'm not actually accusing you of anything (you're doing that yourself quite well at this point), and we proceed to go through the entire thing where you think I have accused you of something when it's pretty clear you aren't actually reading what's being written.

    And the great irony of this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    That's one hell of an ego you have there, to assume I hate you. My energies are best expended elsewhere.
    If that were true, why did you feel the need to go on attack mode over a complete non-issue?

    Methinks thou dost project too much....
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  4. #63
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    talking to yourself in 3rd person is kinda ... cringe and being disingenuous at the same time.
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  5. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Deleting all this because great wall of text and my god the ego.LOL
    All I can think is this.

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    Last edited by Nepentha; 08-14-2021 at 08:04 AM.

  6. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    All I can think is this.

    Apology accepted =)
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  7. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Apology accepted =)
    Except I didn't apologize. But do keep going, the conspiracy tinfoil hat thing you have going on here is great.
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    Last edited by Nepentha; 08-15-2021 at 01:03 AM.

  8. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Apology accepted =)
    You should apologize to Milkie first.
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