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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    There have been many that have exchanged all sorts of RL and crypto currency for homes, had to verify as "money" is a bit ambiguous whereas gil is not.
    I think you're just playing dumb or in bad faith. If we're discussing in-game related stuff and money is mentioned it's implied to refer to the in-game currency. Not real life money.
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    Aren't humans amazing? :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    There have been many that have exchanged all sorts of RL and crypto currency for homes, had to verify as "money" is a bit ambiguous whereas gil is not.
    Seriously? Why would you even assume that? Don't be disingenuous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Seriously? Why would you even assume that? Don't be disingenuous.
    Because I wouldn't put it past members of the hate club to do this.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp View Post
    Aren't humans amazing? :3
    No, that's why we're not hyurs!
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Because I wouldn't put it past members of the hate club to do this.
    That's one hell of an ego you have there, to assume I hate you. My energies are best expended elsewhere.

    Also, this is what I'm talking about that you never think things through. Disagreeing with you does not mean I am or would do RMT. This is a logical fallacy.

    If I went with the same logic, I can safely assume YOU are RMTing.
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    Last edited by Nepentha; 08-13-2021 at 01:22 AM.

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    That's one hell of an ego you have there, to assume I hate you. My energies are best expended elsewhere.
    Tyey're It's clearly not spent on posting ideas or endeavouring to make this housing situation better... Yet they oddly get spent to maintain the abusive and oppressive status quo...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Also, this is what I'm talking about that you never think things through. Disagreeing with you does not mean I am or would do RMT. This is a logical fallacy.
    No, but many that vehemently object to everything I post are those that are actively participating in things that make this housing situation worse... like shell FCs among other things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    If I went with the same logic, I can safely assume YOU are RMTing.
    This should be amusing, go ahead and prove your claim.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    Reminds me of link showing the same guy with multiple FCs named like : XXX paladin XXX lancer etc.

    One lass on Reddit, explaining that she likes to create and decorate homes for RP players and managed to buy multiple houses in the same ward. And couldn’t care less if others were homeless filthy peasants. In short, that’s their mindset : extreme greed and selfish.

    The system is already bad enough to have this on top of it. They really should think about instanced housing because all these things do along with their housing supply issue is promoting RMT/Shady stuff and it’s just disheartening for people who simply want to own a single house.
    while on the other hand it may alleviate the flipping market and the RMT stuff, instanced housing itself may not be the holy grail that people make it out to be, because the resources still wouldn't be infinite. Even inactive housing-instances take up space (one of the reasons we're dealing with a rather limited item-limit within the houses) and it actually may cause even more stress on the servers (at least in the beginning) because there'd be thousands of ppl swarming the housing servers.

    In my opinion the only solution would be to completely destroy everything and build up housing from scratch but there still might be restrictions due to the old code construct and I don't see that happening. Also there currently are a big number of houses that ppl never really use and there'd be alot more of such ppl who can't be bothered with decorating their own space. Heck, I even find Mansions that people bought and pretty much left it untouched (not even bothering moving the gardening stuff away from the entrance etc. ^^) Since it costs to maintain servers it would be some kind of moneysink just to satisfy the "need" of housing ^^

    Well,
    maybe the Island sanctuary might be a little something to ease the demand of housing because often ppl just demand to be able to use the gardening stuff. And I've been given to understand that it'll probably be instanced (probably going to be a somewhat limited content, if I have to hazard a guess, though)
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Tyey're It's clearly not spent on posting ideas or endeavouring to make this housing situation better... Yet they oddly get spent to maintain the abusive and oppressive status quo...

    No, but many that vehemently object to everything I post are those that are actively participating in things that make this housing situation worse... like shell FCs among other things.
    Where did I not object to shell FCs? Correcting you on the real problem, that being housing flippers and resellers, isn't condoning shell FCs. It's noting that they're less of an issue as far as I'm concerned. Reading comprehension has never been your strong suit, though.

    There's that ego again. It's always all about you, eh? I've posted plenty of ideas in here and my thoughts on things unrelated to you. I also object to your ridiculous ideas, too. One can do both things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    This should be amusing, go ahead and prove your claim.
    Insert facepalm emoji here. You first. Prove I'm RMTing or have given any hint of it.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Where did I not object to shell FCs? Correcting you on the real problem, that being housing flippers and resellers, isn't condoning shell FCs.
    One of the methods of house flipping and reselling involves selling FC houses, which are commonly done with shell FCs. Why are you being maliciously ignorant on this point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Prove I'm RMTing or have given any hint of it.
    RMT = Real Money Transaction

    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Why should we lose our house because you think we should? We paid the money for it, we decorated it collectively.
    Notice the bolded part? Given what's being discussed, I felt clarification on this point was necessary as the word "money" in this context is ambiguous. I mean, I said as much in a follow up post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    There have been many that have exchanged all sorts of RL and crypto currency for homes, had to verify as "money" is a bit ambiguous whereas gil is not.
    Why are you being so defensive about this?
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    Last edited by Almagnus1; 08-13-2021 at 02:38 AM.

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