Lack of pve content

[DragoAskani]

We had 3 savages and 1 ultimates, which is equivalent to 1 week + 5 days prog (I assume TEA is 1 week prog), I will round to 2 week prog

2 week prog in Wow is 2 Mythical raids, they have 3-4 mythical raids (without even considering Heroic raids) per extension

Why such lack of pve content ? for a MMORPG that want to become better/the #1

(I still consider FF14 better than WOW overall, but this lack of pve content is a bit upsetting)

MMO's don't live or die by their raid content you know?

[Hyrist]

Let's see.

A handful of 80s. That's good.

Elemental level 1 - so no clears on BA, that's something you can pursue. I'm assuming you've cleared Bozjda? If not go there for some additional content. Both of those have their own progression system seperate from Raiding - but they're good PVE content with their own interesting systems.

If you're looking for a Challenge, you can go for clears of Deep Dungeon or Heaven on High - both can be done solo with some of the jobs you already have leveled.

Your doggo and dragon collection is lacking, so Extremes of either or are still on the table for you.

Blue Mage isn't even unlocked - that's even more fights for you, though those are exclusively solo. If you're missing things like elemental mechanics, those exist in the Masked Carnival.

So it looks like you still have lots and lots of PvE content to do - FFXIV isn't lacking at all for it. What seems to be lacking is your scope of gameplay.

This stuff may not be relevant to your ilvl, but I guarantee you that your ilvl will be irrelevant come November. At best you'll get through the second new story dungeon with the absolute BIS you have. As far as goals and challenges, FFXIV has plenty, but it's not about gear-score progression or about being inaccessible to all but the most hardcore of players. But there ARE challenges out there that will require time and dedication, if you're looking for that.

You just have to actually look.

[Puremallace]

Lynx made the PERFECT and I mean perfect video response to this criticism. 15min video that goes over every single point you listed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96KtLjdlaRw&t=859s

[Holystyle]

For haters guys if you are not interested in doing it why are you posting here even?
I do not think it is something to get upset about when someone wants more from devs.

Not everyone has to enjoy same things as you do.
How you can even live and say nah i dont like X so you cant have/like more of it.

Never understood this why not wanting more and more for everyone.
So toxic some of you here someone wants to live in Final Fantasy going on adventure beating enemies get fancy gear!

You cant have it........" we got crafting as your pve content" , when they start flexing crafting on trailers then you might have point.

[Wavaryen]

For haters guys if you are not interested in doing it why are you posting here even?
I do not think it is something to get upset about when someone wants more from devs.

Not everyone has to enjoy same things as you do.
How you can even live and say nah i dont like X so you cant have/like more of it.

Never understood this why not wanting more and more for everyone.

Because it takes development time i'm guessing.

Wow developers said it best. Sure we can give you what you want, but it will cost you a raid tier. MMORPG community took that to heart, and now any content gets asked that a player does not want or care for in the game. Will fight tooth and nail to say no, because they feel as if that content will come at the cost of other content.


And they could very well be right.

[Holystyle]

You cant even quote and sources your post.
And that is just making excuses who makes money can make more content.

And you all are "whiteknighting" developers excuses behind wanting more.

And it perfectly serves devs.

Poeple wanting more of X : We want more!

People of Y : No or we dont get our things we want!

Devs laughing at them fighting between them while doing bare minimum of content despite claiming growth and making more money.

And if you cant see that ....... then.

[Goji1639]

This game's endgame isn't really about progression and power creep like a lot of MMORPGs. It's mainly about getting all the prettiest mounts, minions, glamours, housing, etc. to show off. To that end the PvE content in this game is pretty much endless, because old content never becomes irrelevant and the reward structure for every system in this game feeds into that.

If you play this like a progression MMORPG and nothing else, however, then yea there's not much.

[Puremallace]

Because it takes development time i'm guessing.

Wow developers said it best. Sure we can give you what you want, but it will cost you a raid tier. MMORPG community took that to heart, and now any content gets asked that a player does not want or care for in the game. Will fight tooth and nail to say no, because they feel as if that content will come at the cost of other content.


And they could very well be right.

One raid tier to create content that is self sustaining would do WoW a large amount of good right about now. Personally if I were Blizzard I would immediately make the darkmoon faire 24 hours a day and drop 6 devs on it just creating new content for casuals because they are bleeding that player base HARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD right now.

[Wavaryen]

One raid tier to create content that is self sustaining would do WoW a large amount of good right about now. Personally if I were Blizzard I would immediately make the darkmoon faire 24 hours a day and drop 6 devs on it just creating new content for casuals because they are bleeding that player base HARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD right now.

Oh I agree, it was a quote I think during the MOP time? It was years ago, when players was not happy with the selfie patch, and the content quality was dropping. A developer just came out and said that. And the rest is history. It became a meme, and now it add fuel to the fire of casuals non players vs raiders. Both sides fight each other feeling as content coming to the game cost them something. Heck we had it in this forum with the bunny boys thread lol.

[Nothv13]

You cant even quote and sources your post.
And that is just making excuses who makes money can make more content.

And you all are "whiteknighting" developers excuses behind wanting more.

You really do not understand software development, time management, personnel management, nor money management. Throwing money at things doesn't mean they will get completed faster nor even get completed. Time, manpower, and money are limited. This means that if you are working at max capacity you either pull people from other projects, effectively slowing other areas, push everything back effectively giving yourself more time, causing content draughts and missing deadlines, or hire more people, which doesn't guarantee anything, may just clog things up and slow things down, and may not even be possible depending on the money situation. There are trade-offs for each choice and it is almost never as simple as just throw money at it. This is a reality of actual project management. I suggest you take a class on it.