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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I think one of the biggest issues is that leveling dungeons are often more difficult than endgame dungeons and players often forget that. Especially at the start of new expansions.

    Dusk Vigil, Siresong Sea, Bardam's Mettle, Doma, Castrum Abania, Holmister Switch are all going to chunk tanks who aren't prepared and actually using their defensive CD's.
    Are they really? I just got to shadowbringers, so I've been unaware of that. I just know that this game tends to have some pretty difficult mechanics in some of the dungeons, and an inexperienced tank can make that a frustrating experience.
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    0w0 what are you doing here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabadabs View Post
    Are they really? I just got to shadowbringers, so I've been unaware of that. I just know that this game tends to have some pretty difficult mechanics in some of the dungeons, and an inexperienced tank can make that a frustrating experience.
    Mechanics and bosses are not the issue. It's that mobs tend to hit quite hard in these dungeons at these levels so the real challenge lies in multiple packs at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Mechanics and bosses are not the issue. It's that mobs tend to hit quite hard in these dungeons at these levels so the real challenge lies in multiple packs at once.
    This is made a bit worse with the DPS mindset of certain tanks. The last expansion I stacked Tenacity when I tanked in prep for the new one and Dungeons weren't much of an issue as my incoming damage was 10% lower just from Tenacity alone.

    Plan on doing it again. Battledance 8 Materias are dirt cheap as is Tenacity Food.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabadabs View Post
    Are they really? I just got to shadowbringers, so I've been unaware of that. I just know that this game tends to have some pretty difficult mechanics in some of the dungeons, and an inexperienced tank can make that a frustrating experience.
    Definitely. Not only can you outgear them easily, they also hit for much less.

    You can run level 80 dungeons easily without a healer, but a wall-pull in Holminster can wipe a tank even with a healer.
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