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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Not worth arguing with lol. I guess some duty finder text takes precedence over the actual lorebook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    Not worth arguing with lol. I guess some duty finder text takes precedence over the actual lorebook.
    60% of primal fights make reference to your party, a clear majority, sourced in such a way that anyone who cares to can double check for themselves. If these references were inaccurate then the team could change them to match the lore book, but they don't.

    The lorebooks were written from an in-universe perspective by writers who were not omniscient. Quite a few people don't like this aspect of them, means they're not 100% reliable as a source as the author can theoretically be wrong (it's a pretty fair complaint to be honest, they're not exactly cheap books,) but I believe they chose to do them that way because they cannot just go back and change the lorebook in the same way they can change the game, and they don't want to be constrained by things they've written in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    60% of primal fights make reference to your party, a clear majority, sourced in such a way that anyone who cares to can double check for themselves. If these references were inaccurate then the team could change them all to match the lore book, but they don't.

    The lorebooks were written from an in-universe perspective by writers who were not omniscient. Quite a few people don't like this aspect of them, means they're not a 100% reliable as a source (and it's a pretty fair complaint to be honest, they're not cheap,) but as far as I know it was a deliberate choice to write it them way because they cannot just go back and change the lorebook in the same way they can change the game, and they don't want to be constrained by things they've written in the past.
    The first volume of the official FINAL FANTASY XIV lore books, written and compiled by the FINAL FANTASY XIV development team! This deluxe, full-color, hardcover volume is the definitive guide to the world of the massively popular online game.
    While you have some meta journal that kinda just tells you, hey queue up bucko.
    How in the everliving hell do we have comrades for nabriales? or final steps of faith?
    Also they literally are getting reprinted, so they could change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    The first volume of the official FINAL FANTASY XIV lore books, written and compiled by the FINAL FANTASY XIV development team! This deluxe, full-color, hardcover volume is the definitive guide to the world of the massively popular online game.
    While you have some meta journal that kinda just tells you, hey queue up bucko.
    How in the everliving hell do we have comrades for nabriales? or final steps of faith?
    When the game and the book clash, I go with the game.

    The game could be changed if it was wrong, and the book is written with an out in the first few pages, where it describes itself as a collection of 'histories, legends, fables and folktales.'

    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    Also they literally are getting reprinted, so they could change it.
    They could literally change the game text tonight, as they could have done for the past several years. They haven't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    When the game and the book clash, I go with the game.

    The game could be changed if it was wrong, and the book is written with an out in the first few pages, where it describes itself as a collection of 'histories, legends, fables and folktales.'
    The reference to adventurers seems to exist in english localization only, from what I see.
    Even then the lorebook does mention that we gather companions sometimes, increasingly so in volume 2 (SB), regardless the playerbase at large does not have any bearing on the population which was my original point. It's still a handful of echo pals, not an entire colony of catboys in Limsa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    The reference to adventurers seems to exist in english localization only, from what I see.
    Well, these are the English language forums. I'd guess most of us are rather ill-equipped to discuss the Japanese version.

    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    Even then the lorebook does mention that we gather companions sometimes, increasingly so in volume 2 (SB), regardless the playerbase at large does not have any bearing on the population which was my original point. It's still a handful of echo pals, not an entire colony of catboys in Limsa.
    I'm not asking for major rewrites, just hoping for some minor justifications for the sudden influx of male Viera. Maybe part of the forest burned down, or maybe they've been discussing it and come to the conclusion being semi-exiles in their own home is a poor deal, you know, whatever.
    Player population doesn't have to exactly correspond to what makes some amount of in-world sense, but it's a nice bonus if it does. I've always enjoyed the little bits and pieces here and there that try to reconcile some of the gameplay with some of the world-building and lore.
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    We already have a reason: uptick in war = bunnies falling out of trees. Lorebook says Viera have always been here but only recently have they been leaving their forest in noticeable numbers due to their territories getting caught between Garlemald's war.
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