Devs, Stick to your guns or remove Viera all together.

[Fukuro]

I feel like I read somewhere they said they wouldn't really go into the how and why of their sudden appearance, but I can't find a source so now I'm not sure anymore?

Either way though, Viera life is pretty restrictive for both the men and the women so it's not hard to imagine why some would leave.

oh they did?
the only thing i remember them saying we‘ll learn more about their lore, story and other details in the future (from the fanfest)

[Iscah]

I'd just like some little nod to their sudden appearance. Like how Au ra got the refugee crisis and the Viera/Hrothgar had rebellions erupt in and around their home regions.

They're not "suddenly appearing" from a lore perspective though; they've always been around, it's just that we're going to their home regions for the first time.

If they're trying to excuse an influx of adventurers from those races, then it needs to be due to events that happened prior to the beginning of ARR, not now in the leadup to Endwalker, because players are now seeing those races the first moment they get off the carriage and walk into town.

The approach, particularly for Viera and Hrothgar, doesn't seem to be so much "these are new and unfamiliar races" as "these people have always been around and are already recognisable, if rare". Hrothgar in particular are linked with the already-known Bozja Incident – not a new race at all, but (theoretically) a well-established people you didn't realise you'd already heard of.

[Yencat]

oh they did?
the only thing i remember them saying we‘ll learn more about their lore, story and other details in the future (from the fanfest)

I've been trying to find it but it's a nightmare trying to find a specific interview with how many they do for different websites in different languages, something about how the current events would seem like a good reason for them to show up but it wasn't intentionally planned that way and since they're still rare we wouldn't meet many, if any, as NPC's or in settlements?

If what you say is what they said at fan fest though I might be misremembering because that's completely contradictory, and since I can't find a source you should probably take it with a huge grain of salt.

[CaedemSanguis]

T O X I C - L O R E - C A S U A L

[Caitlyn]

Adding Viera and Hrothgar with Shadowbringers was actually a good move. Both races dont just appear right of nowhere, they are part of the population of the first shard.

The addition of the Au Ra in Heavensward was a bit unlucky in comparision. Dont get me wrong. I like that they add them that early into the game. But... during the dragonsong war, everyone who is just slightly (of falsely) involved with dragons will be jailed or killed. And then, its ok to enter the sacred halls of ishgard with your dragon-like WoL. I think, they may fit better during the Events of Stormblood.


Just because something doesnt fit in the lore, it doesnt mean it doesnt fit in the game. We got flying elefants, cars and a invincible WoL. Not even a scratch after all these fights.

On the other hand, SE shouldnt be forced to add everything just because of gender equality. Its a just a game and a fantasy world. What will come next? A male fairy for scholars?

[Fukuro]

I've been trying to find it but it's a nightmare trying to find a specific interview with how many they do for different websites in different languages, something about how the current events would seem like a good reason for them to show up but it wasn't intentionally planned that way and since they're still rare we wouldn't meet many, if any, as NPC's or in settlements?

If what you say is what they said at fan fest though I might be misremembering because that's completely contradictory, and since I can't find a source you should probably take it with a huge grain of salt.

that‘s all to true, i know that feeling searching for that one interview and not finding it xD but i also remember reading something about not really meeting any of them or that it will be a rare occasion( possibility was open if i remember right) well let‘s see whats coming, im excited either way!

if you want to hear the fanfest part, it‘s around 2:00:35
https://youtu.be/sXrP6tT9wbY

[Yencat]

that‘s all to true, i know that feeling searching for that one interview and not finding it xD but i also remember reading something about not really meeting any of them or that it will be a rare occasion( possibility was open if i remember right) well let‘s see whats coming, im excited either way!

if you want to hear the fanfest part, it‘s around 2:00:35
https://youtu.be/sXrP6tT9wbY

Yes, I see you know the pain as well.

I suppose both things can be true in the end, they can provide more story, lore and background on male Viera in general and go the same route they went with female Viera and not really go into detail about why they're out of the woods and showing up in Limsa / Ul'dah / Gridania.

Especially considering a newly created male Viera would start in ARR so the events of Endwalker would be a ways off still.

[Jandor]

They're not "suddenly appearing" from a lore perspective though; they've always been around, it's just that we're going to their home regions for the first time.

Well yeah, that's kinda my point. They can't have always been around (in Eorzea) and have never left their forest.

I don't mind if never leaving the forest and never being seen was how it was always was, but some acknowledgement that things are changing would be appreciated.

[Iscah]

I don't mind if never leaving the forest and never being seen was how it was always was, but some acknowledgement that things are changing would be appreciated.

My point is, if it's a change then it's a retroactive change that happens earlier in the story, not now on the brink of the finale.

[HollowedDoll]

Not really, the majority of duties say that you're going with allies.

okay I guess the lore book doesn't count?
The vast majority of primals are solo kills, some explicitly said so.

Even then this is only party members so 3-7 people, if Eorzea had as many people with the echo as there are players it would never be in any danger.