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    Snorky's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I think some of them should get killed off simply because it's the end of the story thus far and the next expansion will likely start something new entirely.
    So I kinda think it makes sense now to get a fresh start, personally I also want more Lyse and Yugiri and more development for them ( I am biased because I main MNK and like NIN too, but I still think there's potential ).

    I mean I don't want them to die, just that I think some of them should and that it'd be more interesting.
    I don't agree with the sentiment from some tho that none of the deaths have mattered or been felt, when Haurchefant died I felt that and Ysayle I think was underutilized but her big moment was still awesome and I was sad to see her go.
    Same with Yotsuyu's death.

    Again tho I don't necessarily want this, but I do however think that characters we're closer to ( as in the main party ) dying makes a lot of sense for Endwalker.
    And I do think it becomes a bit hard to take the stakes seriously when the plot armor is too obvious, it kinda makes you stop taking threats seriously.
    I can understand this. Maybe some of them will retire go back to their homelands to help rebuild. My heart is torn, as I have become attached to the scions. What I want is for a deeper delve into the WoL I want to struggle at some point with my choices. I want to have a moment of being lost and not looked too as the savior. I want to find out who I really am. As the WoL we woke up in a carriage, who were we before that where were we born? Who were our parents? Did we have a home, a family? Or were we a being created by hydelyn? I want a moment in the story of finding myself. Hear, feel, think. I don't want to be a bad guy but maybe make a show of my human weaknesses. The acians have been behind every major plot line. There comes a reaconing at some point. Acians gave the dragon eyes to ilberd (sp) which resulted in the death of one of the first scions we met. His sacrifice was noble and not stupid. WoL could not have handled that primal at that point. To want characters to die without providing which way the story should go is just silly.
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    I can understand this. Maybe some of them will retire go back to their homelands to help rebuild. My heart is torn, as I have become attached to the scions. What I want is for a deeper delve into the WoL
    This is really one of my biggest desires in seeing some of the cast be retired. Because we've been with, in particular, Alphi from the beginning and he's been at the core of so much of what's happened it's felt a lot like we've been sort of second just hand playing Alphi's story. He's had all this growth and these personal challenges that he's overcome, and the WoL has felt a lot like his sidekick rather than him being ours. Nothing against Alphi as I've grown to really like his character over the years but they really need to put him to the side. I do understand that they can't really write the story around the WoL purely because everyone's WoL is different, but by surrounding our WoL with different characters and different perspectives, with their own motivations and storylines, we'll still be able to explore different aspects of our own character. Heck, I think that this is really one of the reasons why ShB is so beloved, particularly as it relates to it's antagonists. So yeah, by putting the old guard Scions off to the side it will allow our own characters to grow in ways they just can't by continually forcing us into the lives of these characters we've already been walking in the shadow of for years.

    Now, does this require us to kill off the Scions? No. But, that said, I do think that death is and should be a possible outcome. No one should just die for no reason, and some characters should certainly just be retired (Thancred can slink back into the shadows or even return to the First, Urianger can abscond to the Crystal Tower and it's stores of knowledge, YShtola can take over as Master Matoya for real, Alphi can stay in Sharlayan as a new representative on the Council, etc.). I also agree with the perspective that there is a lack of consequence in a lot of what the Scions do, particularly when some "guaranteed" deaths end up getting retconned for no good reason. Yes some major characters have died, but it has almost always been side characters that have basically just been introduced so they can die.
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