An idea regarding Relic raids.

[TaleraRistain]

I think one thing the developers have not fully thought through with their SB and ShB relic design is what happens when the content dies. It actually came to a head after CLL. People stopped running CLL and it became a huge bottleneck for those coming after. And that happened in the same expansion it came out in. The Twelve only know what's going to happen when no one is running it in Endwalker.

Contrast this with ARR and HW. You can go do everything for ARR and HW relics now, and only experience normal DF queues for any steps requiring group content. Alliance Raid Roulette was a big want on these forums and elsewhere for a long time because people were waiting and waiting and waiting in queue and now we can do them quickly and simply. So quickly and simply that they didn't even hesitate to add a set to mandatory MSQ. I think similar treatment toward at least these instances (and anything they could possibly do to help with Eureka) would go a long way toward effective future-proofing.

[Kranel_San]

I think one thing the developers have not fully thought through with their SB and ShB relic design is what happens when the content dies. It actually came to a head after CLL. People stopped running CLL and it became a huge bottleneck for those coming after. And that happened in the same expansion it came out in. The Twelve only know what's going to happen when no one is running it in Endwalker.

Contrast this with ARR and HW. You can go do everything for ARR and HW relics now, and only experience normal DF queues for any steps requiring group content. Alliance Raid Roulette was a big want on these forums and elsewhere for a long time because people were waiting and waiting and waiting in queue and now we can do them quickly and simply. So quickly and simply that they didn't even hesitate to add a set to mandatory MSQ. I think similar treatment toward at least these instances (and anything they could possibly do to help with Eureka) would go a long way toward effective future-proofing.

It happened in the same patch. I was one of those unlucky folks who had to wait for weeks to be able to get Castrum done because I was busy with real-life when it dropped. Couldn't believe myself when I've done castrum after countless failed runs, and I totally agree with your other points!

[Jeeqbit]

I think one thing the developers have not fully thought through with their SB and ShB relic design is what happens when the content dies. It actually came to a head after CLL. People stopped running CLL and it became a huge bottleneck for those coming after. And that happened in the same expansion it came out in. The Twelve only know what's going to happen when no one is running it in Endwalker.

Echo was added to CEs when there are not enough people and that includes CLL. CLL was recently nerfed so you don't have to remain on the button to open the door, allowing less than 6 people to do it. I have done CEs solo so everything can be done solo or with two people already even if you restrict yourself to Bozja and Zadnor instead of doing old content.