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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    We never see any Ascians present themselves as anything but Hyur, do we? So the Ancients may in fact just have looked human (except large)...
    While not entirely distinct from Hyurs, and even said to be cousins, Garleans are not Hyurs. Emet-selch presented himself as a Garlean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    While not entirely distinct from Hyurs, and even said to be cousins, Garleans are not Hyurs. Emet-selch presented himself as a Garlean.
    ... I guess they're different enough in stature/proportions (except when they're not, for whatever reason) and the third eye. But you know what I meant, we never see a Miqo'te or Au Ra or whatever Ascian
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    That makes me wonder if the individual presumed to be Venat is using her original appearance, because outwardly she just looks to be a Hyur of fairly normal stature.

    Though she did mention she'd always be present in one form or another, which suggests she's been somehow changing over the millenia.
    It may be a form that is easily understood to be a person by us. It's possible that they looked all so completely different from one another that the robes were used to "homogenize" their looks via glamour so they would focus only on personality and a person's character, not their looks.
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    Don't forget about the masks and such!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    ... I guess they're different enough in stature/proportions (except when they're not, for whatever reason) and the third eye. But you know what I meant, we never see a Miqo'te or Au Ra or whatever Ascian
    I have to keep reminding myself that it's most probably due to game dev limitations rather than anything lore-relevant. (Other than Garleans, the closest we had to non-Hyur Ascians was Travanchet.) But yeah, I'd be immensely interested in seeing, say, a Moogle Ascian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    I have to keep reminding myself that it's most probably due to game dev limitations rather than anything lore-relevant. (Other than Garleans, the closest we had to non-Hyur Ascians was Travanchet.) But yeah, I'd be immensely interested in seeing, say, a Moogle Ascian.
    Since it's just their physical host, I do wonder if there's a limitation to it.

    Like, I wonder if an Ascian has ever inhabited a dragon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Since it's just their physical host, I do wonder if there's a limitation to it.

    Like, I wonder if an Ascian has ever inhabited a dragon?

    The speedo kills it lol
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Since it's just their physical host, I do wonder if there's a limitation to it.

    Like, I wonder if an Ascian has ever inhabited a dragon?

    Their ability to inhabit bodies may be limited to races that were present before and during the sundering as those are all fragmented souls. Dragons, being alien to our star and a complete soul may be simply immune to ascians taking control of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    Their ability to inhabit bodies may be limited to races that were present before and during the sundering as those are all fragmented souls. Dragons, being alien to our star and a complete soul may be simply immune to ascians taking control of them.
    Unfortunately, I don't think dragons would be immune to Ascian control, assuming they were compatible for Ascian habitation.

    Ancient Allag, created by the Ascians, was able to create Neurolinks to control Meracydian Dragons in order to have them perpetuate Bahamut. If they could control dragons with machines, then why not with their souls?

    Bear in mind that Lahabrea was shown with a flick of the wrist to be able to rouse Isgebind in the Stone Vigil, and impel it to attack after imbuing it with his dark powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Unfortunately, I don't think dragons would be immune to Ascian control, assuming they were compatible for Ascian habitation.

    Ancient Allag, created by the Ascians, was able to create Neurolinks to control Meracydian Dragons in order to have them perpetuate Bahamut. If they could control dragons with machines, then why not with their souls?

    Bear in mind that Lahabrea was shown with a flick of the wrist to be able to rouse Isgebind in the Stone Vigil, and impel it to attack after imbuing it with his dark powers.
    I think there is a difference between externally exerting control over a species and actually inhabiting their body.
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