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    Sundering and specific character questions. [Spoilers]

    Do we have any information about how the Sundering might have affected Midgarsormr or Omega, if at all?

    Also, as an aside, did we ever learn why Emet-Selch, Lahabrea, et al., were not among the Sundered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Do we have any information about how the Sundering might have affected Midgarsormr or Omega, if at all?

    Also, as an aside, did we ever learn why Emet-Selch, Lahabrea, et al., were not among the Sundered?
    The answer to both of those questions (outside of speculation) is no.

    For the 1st question at least, we have a somewhat solid theory barring new evidence, in that the Sundering only affected the original Star and did not extend to the surrounding universe, i.e. go past Hydaelyn and Zodiark's "field of influence". Midgardsormr and Omega, who both are of alien origin, would thus not be affected by the Sundering, especially if they arrived after the event. This goes some ways to explain why Middy and his First Brood are so powerful, because they are unsundered.
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    Midgardsomr, his eggs and Omega only arrived at the planet after the sundering, so they qualify as unsundered beings as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    Midgardsormr and Omega, who both are of alien origin, would thus not be affected by the Sundering, especially if they arrived after the event. This goes some ways to explain why Middy and his First Brood are so powerful, because they are unsundered.
    This is what I arrived at as well but I was wondering if there was anything specific that I missed. I guess not.

    Also, I am hoping we see more about those specific Ascians in the future.
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    Omega and Midgardsormr are not sundered because they came to the planet after and it seems (keyword seems, but going by what we know of the cause, this appears to be the case) to be restricted only to the planet.

    Which, in retrospect, makes me wonder if Omega's aether-crafting abilities aren't really all that special. It's pretty much the same thing the Ancients did. Are all unsundered beings across the universe able to use summoning that way, and rather than Omega being super powerful, it's more that Hydaelyn-ians are weak?
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    Question is can Omega be sundered since it is a machine.
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Question is can Omega be sundered since it is a machine.
    It can definitely be sundered since inanimate objects like the planet itself could be sundered. But the question is what effects it might have, since Omega doesn't seem to have had a soul until it encountered us and began developing one for itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier View Post
    Omega and Midgardsormr are not sundered because they came to the planet after and it seems (keyword seems, but going by what we know of the cause, this appears to be the case) to be restricted only to the planet.

    Which, in retrospect, makes me wonder if Omega's aether-crafting abilities aren't really all that special. It's pretty much the same thing the Ancients did. Are all unsundered beings across the universe able to use summoning that way, and rather than Omega being super powerful, it's more that Hydaelyn-ians are weak?
    Yeah, that's my running theory, for now. That immortality and incredible powers of creation are pretty much the universal standard, and that sundered souls are the exception.

    I reserve the right to back down from this theory, once we learn more about the Calamity that threatened the Ancients' world. If this Calamity was caused by their very nature as immortal, powerful beings, then presumably other races (including the dragons and whoever created Omega) would run into similar problems. (On the other hand, perhaps they did, or were on the road to doing so...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Yeah, that's my running theory, for now. That immortality and incredible powers of creation are pretty much the universal standard, and that sundered souls are the exception.
    What if the Twelve were not Ancients, but unsundered aliens instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    What if the Twelve were not Ancients, but unsundered aliens instead?
    I raise you my theory: The Twelve weren't Aliens, but just the Convocation Members befote being sundered. Not couting the fourteenth, and counting two Convocation members as one because Nald'thal is a twin deity.

    I mean, I believe they say that the Twelve walked the planet before the First Calamity, which could be around the time of Amaurot. And those coming up with them being gods were the first generation of Sundered who still remembered a little, so maybe they just remembered some powerful figures/leaders and interpreted that to deities.

    Alternatively, and purely going by Hades' name, seeing the Convocation members as similar to the Olympians. (Again not counting the Fourteenth and neither Hades, as he isn't one of the Twelve Olympians in greek mythology.)
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