Pronouns???

[Brandedblade]

In a world where fantasia potions exist, why would anyone be trans? Why wouldn't you legitimately transform yourself into the gender of your choosing?

The simple answer is they can still be trans but the fantasia potion was how they transitioned.

As for a more complex answer, from what I've seen, some people want to explore the concept of being trans and going through the process in a setting that isn't as inherently hostile to them for it. Yes the world of FFXIV has hostile elements to it, but I would imagine it would be a relief for some if the conflict in their life wasn't caused by how others perceive them for that. It can be more interesting of a story arc then simply "Chug the fantasy juice and wake up a lady." Some people like to ground some level of reality into their role play without bringing in all the baggage said reality brings.

[TeraRamis]

The simple answer is they can still be trans but the fantasia potion was how they transitioned.

As for a more complex answer, from what I've seen, some people want to explore the concept of being trans and going through the process in a setting that isn't as inherently hostile to them for it. Yes the world of FFXIV has hostile elements to it, but I would imagine it would be a relief for some if the conflict in their life wasn't caused by how others perceive them for that. It can be more interesting of a story arc then simply "Chug the fantasy juice and wake up a lady." Some people like to ground some level of reality into their role play without bringing in all the baggage said reality brings.

Perhaps - just perhaps - the world of FFXIV is so dangerous, and the average lifespan of an adventurer so short, that people on Eorzea (not player characters, who can be as insane as they like, dragging real-life self-manufactured political baggage into a setting that inherently negates its existence) lack the luxury to be completely self-obsessed, unlike the denizens of our modern world. It seems pretty safe to assume that when a wrong turn potentially leads to an encounter with everything from ferocious wolves to disease-belching tentacle monsters - much less worrying that you might starve, die of heat exhaustion, drown, or be enslaved - there's probably little time to muse over whether or not, with the right hair color and makeup, a given male Roegadyn could pull off that lovely dress.

[Andy_T93]

dragging real-life self-manufactured political baggage

Wow you are just a special kind of awful aren't you

I can't even imagine how twisted a mind must be to feel this way about a minority who wants nothing more to be accepted for who they are

[Rinhi]

Wow you are just a special kind of awful aren't you

I hope that one day you see the irony in you saying that after you've done nothing but throw personal attacks at someone else for disagreeing with you over including real life politics in a video game
maybe go touch some grass and follow what you preach

[Andy_T93]

Firstly that wouldn't be irony it would be hypocrisy, Secondly, and I cannot stress this enough, a persons gender Identify is NOT political just because politicians believe they have the right to discuss it and decide what rights people can and can't have does not make it political, is being black Political? is being a woman political?

Secondly you do NOT get to disagree about this, again just like you don't get to disagree with equal rights for women, or black people or gay people etc. Trans people exist and they deserve equal representation if you disagree with that statement are an awful person there is no debate around that.

[Miracle_Diva]

Firstly that wouldn't be irony it would be hypocrisy, Secondly, and I cannot stress this enough, a persons gender Identify is NOT political just because politicians believe they have the right to discuss it and decide what rights people can and can't have does not make it political, is being black Political? is being a woman political?

Secondly you do NOT get to disagree about this, again just like you don't get to disagree with equal rights for women, or black people or gay people etc. Trans people exist and they deserve equal representation if you disagree with that statement are an awful person there is no debate around that.

Go chill, dude.

[Andy_T93]

Go chill, dude.

An excellent, well thought out response, well done

[Amnmaat]

Firstly that wouldn't be irony it would be hypocrisy, Secondly, and I cannot stress this enough, a persons gender Identify is NOT political just because politicians believe they have the right to discuss it and decide what rights people can and can't have does not make it political, is being black Political? is being a woman political?

Secondly you do NOT get to disagree about this, again just like you don't get to disagree with equal rights for women, or black people or gay people etc. Trans people exist and they deserve equal representation if you disagree with that statement are an awful person there is no debate around that.

Whoa whoa whoa, we Black people are no shield for anyone.
Anyone can be the 200 gender denominations; very different from being the direct children of the creator, made in his image.

[Roeshel]

Firstly that wouldn't be irony it would be hypocrisy, Secondly, and I cannot stress this enough, a persons gender Identify is NOT political just because politicians believe they have the right to discuss it and decide what rights people can and can't have does not make it political, is being black Political? is being a woman political?

Secondly you do NOT get to disagree about this, again just like you don't get to disagree with equal rights for women, or black people or gay people etc. Trans people exist and they deserve equal representation if you disagree with that statement are an awful person there is no debate around that.

Personal gender identity is a personal problem when your gender identity does not align with your biological sex. This is reality. You can scream at those who "refuse to accept you as what you are" but the truth of the matter is that from their perspective it is you who is refusing to accept what you are. Get real. Gender dysphoria is a condition that needs to be treated and the current official way of treating it is by giving people hormones in the hopes that their imagination will one day become a reality.

If we want to make an adequate comparison between trans and black people then we need to use the following example:
A black person claims they are white. Society does not want to accept him as white, black person is now sulking that they are not being accepted for who they think they are.

This is more similar to what trans are actually doing to societies. They are not so much about sexuality like gay people, it's more about wanting society to adapt to every weird fantasy they have about themselves.

And lastly, as far as I know not all gay people want to associate themselves with trans even though both are part of the LGBTQ+ thing.

[Brandedblade]

Perhaps - just perhaps - the world of FFXIV is so dangerous, and the average lifespan of an adventurer so short, that people on Eorzea (not player characters, who can be as insane as they like, dragging real-life self-manufactured political baggage into a setting that inherently negates its existence) lack the luxury to be completely self-obsessed, unlike the denizens of our modern world. It seems pretty safe to assume that when a wrong turn potentially leads to an encounter with everything from ferocious wolves to disease-belching tentacle monsters - much less worrying that you might starve, die of heat exhaustion, drown, or be enslaved - there's probably little time to muse over whether or not, with the right hair color and makeup, a given male Roegadyn could pull off that lovely dress.

One could also argue that that could lead to people realizing that they can't be living their short and hectic lives a certain way and embolden any desire to change themselves in such a manner, if they could die at any moment, then they might as well spend what time they have left striving to be true to themselves.

But here's the thing. This is a fantasy world, the point of it is to allow people to live the fantasy they want, one persons fantasy might be to be an awesome warrior/sorcerer/whatever, one person's fantasy might be to be a blacksmith or chef in a fantastic world where jobs aren't miserable, and another's might simply to be able to go through their own life experiences without some of the negative baggage that society might have tried to throw on them.