Pronouns???

[TeraRamis]

Here's my thoughts on this.

I am 100% in agreeance with being able to choose your pronouns. This is a fantasy setting where I'm meant to take on a role, if the role I want to choose in a giving setting is a character who's gnc or trans or even just androgynous or feminine/masculine looking, I do not see an issue with this. Unlike other certain things, these are harmless attributes to give your characters. Just because I personally am content with playing male he/him characters doesn't mean everyone else is.

HOWEVER. My issue is the fact this was put on a forum. Call me a bitter old fart or whatever but I tend to view posts like this with some cynicism on a public forum. While yes, fundamentally a forum is meant to be a place where people can share thoughts and opinions, considering how toxic certain aspects of "gamer culture" is, it's far too easy for me to want to assume a post like this isn't an honest attempt at feedback, but rather a juicy worm on a hook to try to bait some volatile reaction.

In a world where fantasia potions exist, why would anyone be trans? Why wouldn't you legitimately transform yourself into the gender of your choosing?

[HollowedDoll]

In a world where fantasia potions exist, why would anyone be trans? Why wouldn't you legitimately transform yourself into the gender of your choosing?

Fantasia is a meta object, it doesn't exist in lore.

[DBriggs304]

It's a fantasy game.
Keep it that way..
The real world will still be there when we log off.

[Abbie_]

It's a fantasy game.
Keep it that way..
The real world will still be there when we log off.

how would adding an option to choose pronouns separate to your character's sex affect this game's fantasy-ness in any way?

[Ranaku]

how would adding an option to choose pronouns separate to your character's sex affect this game's fantasy-ness in any way?

From a lore point bringing gender etc. so much into a game could break immersion. Also i have no opinion in this here i am fine with it either way just explaining it from a rational lore point of view. The world of XIV so Hydaelyn etc. is really really dangerous. Famine. War. Homophobia. Diseases. Crimes. And monsters everywhere.

So if we look at it just really rational, there is not much time for one to think about gender or such stuff. Neither is there much acceptance for people which are different. Just look at the tonberry questline. Gay couple which says they feel with the tonberrys since they know how it feels to be unwanted by society.

So unlike we the good people of Eorzea etc. still have to fight with not being eaten and surviving and doing stuff like making babies. They don't have the safety to literally think about what they are and ask themself existencial questions.

That said it's from the point of a narrative driven story. Now from the players perspective since as i said i don't have a opinion on this and would be fine either way. I think it would not hurt and since it affects just your personal experience and cutscenes basically i don't see any harm done to other players.

So yeah, transgender people would be really really rare lorewise but i don't see any harm done if a player just wants to modify his own experience.

[Wyssahtyn]

... Homophobia. ...

So if we look at it just really rational, there is not much time for one to think about gender or such stuff. Neither is there much acceptance for people which are different. Just look at the tonberry questline. Gay couple which says they feel with the tonberrys since they know how it feels to be unwanted by society.

I just want to pop in to say that the emphasis was put on the interracial nature of the Wanderer's Palace couple's relationship, not the homosexuality.

Not Easy Being Green: "... This fellow is Hyuran and I am Miqo'te; are we lesser a couple for our difference? I should think not!" "My dearest and I know their pain all too well. We both had to leave our birthplace. Why, you ask? Simply because we were different."

[TeraRamis]

Fantasia is a meta object, it doesn't exist in lore.

First half of the flavor text would seem to indicate otherwise:

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Fantasia

[HollowedDoll]

First half of the flavor text would seem to indicate otherwise:

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Fantasia

1. Would a regular average joe in Eorzea be able to get their hands on a Fantasia potion, it does not appear to be widespread as it is. And if so, is there a reason why it does not appear to be used by people in power/ people with evil agendas?

A: While the Fantasia potion has some in-world flavor text, it’s mainly meant to be seen as a meta object. For example, you wouldn’t see it’s use, or reference to its use in storylines since in effect it doesn’t actually exist (… So far. You never know if something might change :P)
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[VentVanitas]

Here's my thoughts on this.

I am 100% in agreeance with being able to choose your pronouns. This is a fantasy setting where I'm meant to take on a role, if the role I want to choose in a giving setting is a character who's gnc or trans or even just androgynous or feminine/masculine looking, I do not see an issue with this. Unlike other certain things, these are harmless attributes to give your characters. Just because I personally am content with playing male he/him characters doesn't mean everyone else is.

HOWEVER. My issue is the fact this was put on a forum. Call me a bitter old fart or whatever but I tend to view posts like this with some cynicism on a public forum. While yes, fundamentally a forum is meant to be a place where people can share thoughts and opinions, considering how toxic certain aspects of "gamer culture" is, it's far too easy for me to want to assume a post like this isn't an honest attempt at feedback, but rather a juicy worm on a hook to try to bait some volatile reaction.

I share the same sentiment. This topic is way too touchy to be handled respectfully. Especially in a forum full of gamer dudebros.

I don't think it'll happen because of the work it'd take nor do I think the game needs it, but if it did ever happen I'd welcome it and be happy for the people that would like the addition.

In a world where fantasia potions exist, why would anyone be trans? Why wouldn't you legitimately transform yourself into the gender of your choosing?

Because people can do whatever they want in a video game, balmung catgirl.

[Brandedblade]

In a world where fantasia potions exist, why would anyone be trans? Why wouldn't you legitimately transform yourself into the gender of your choosing?

The simple answer is they can still be trans but the fantasia potion was how they transitioned.

As for a more complex answer, from what I've seen, some people want to explore the concept of being trans and going through the process in a setting that isn't as inherently hostile to them for it. Yes the world of FFXIV has hostile elements to it, but I would imagine it would be a relief for some if the conflict in their life wasn't caused by how others perceive them for that. It can be more interesting of a story arc then simply "Chug the fantasy juice and wake up a lady." Some people like to ground some level of reality into their role play without bringing in all the baggage said reality brings.