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  1. #101
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    Rollan Kyojin
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    YES YES YES YES YES

    Longer fights = more time for actual strategy, if adjusted right I really think this would be nice.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    you are the one who determines the length of the fight. if its too easy do something harder that takes longer. If its still easy dont bring a full party. if its still to easy solo it.

    i was doing gc leves and the stars were too high. i was getting over 1k xp but not having enough time to finish cause the fights were taking too long.
    Clearly does not understand
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    but if we could have some dungeons at, say... level 15, and every 5 levels or so after that- i feel that would work a lot better. the mobs in there can be stronger, the fights can be longer, and there can be boss (like in toto rak) encounters. that's the kind of environment i'd rather learn in.
    exactly how long would you get to experience these dungeons? 1 hour. because that's about how long it takes to gain 5 levels with the current time per encounter mechanic
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    ^^This

    I have no desire to level slower

    UGH.........longer fights, MUCH higher exp -problem solved <.<

    *refrains from raging further*

    Edit: Nvm, you retracted it later lol...thank god
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by SniperRifle View Post
    I love these interesting threads that aren't about QQ/Appreciation/Quitting FFXIV, but are about asking the community what they want.

    I'd love a good mix of short and long battles.
    lol I think most ppl do too, Sniper....Unfortunately, threads start out nice, asking the community for feedback, and then "trolls" come in and ruin it. Let's hope that isn't going to be the case here. I'm only 3 pages into the thread, so only time will tell O.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razen_Arghast View Post
    What 1 hit. I never said 1 hitting stuff would be good, unless they are way way below your power. I'm just asking to stay away from boring designs like having to fight a normal every-place mob that is at your power level for like 1 minute or more. It makes soloing for experience become non-efficient, item farming by hunting mobs even less efficient, combat slow, probably introduces needlessly long downtimes between mobs, and generally gives off a sluggish feeling. Like I said, there are so many better and smarter ways of introducing longer and more immersive battles with tougher mobs, than making normal mobs a chore to fight.
    Well, dude, you have to remember this is a "fantasy" game. You're not fighting cats, birds, dogs, iguanas, gorillas, and w/e other ridiculous shit you can think of...you're fighting "magical creatures." Do you really think that NPCs would be fearful of a bunch of squirrels and rats that a handful of "naive, poorly skilled, weapon-weilding douchebags" can kill? No...and that's what the current fights come off as; and i'm not the only one that feels that way.

    We're supposed to be fighting monsters that terrify "non-adventurers." What's so terrifying about monsters that a child could run out in kill if he/she had enough practice swinging a piece of metal around, rigorously. It's stupid. Do you ever see movies where two fighters just run up to each other and flail aimlessly at one another?

    No...they square off, exchange blows, defend, maneuver, exploit weaknesses, counter, etc.
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  7. #107
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    Veto Bahamut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pnight View Post
    exactly how long would you get to experience these dungeons? 1 hour. because that's about how long it takes to gain 5 levels with the current time per encounter mechanic
    tell me- what is the point of quoting and responding to something you didn't even read?
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    Battle is too spammy in this game right now. Server spams mob repops, we spam skills to take them down in a couple seconds even in exp groups.
    Please, everyone, for the love of god like this post's quote....it's on page 10, a little more than halfway down.
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  9. #109
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    can anyone tell me exactly what the problem is with short 'spammy' regular mob encounters? can anyone give me empirical evidence suggesting short spammy fights leads to a base of bad players?

    the only way to make sure players suck a little less on 'boss' content like ifrit/moogle is for them to have *more practice* on 'boss'-type content, and learning what works best and what rotations to use and blah blah... because 'boss'-type content isn't the same as leveling content. if it is, either your leveling is way too hard or your bosses are way too easy.

    (and actually, 'bosses' in this game ARE way too easy, but that's another topic)
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    can anyone tell me exactly what the problem is with short 'spammy' regular mob encounters?
    Anything is better than *battle music fade i-FADEOUT* *3 seconds field music* *battle music fade in* *battle music fade out*

    And no, don't tell me to turn it off, why have music in the game in the first place then.

    can anyone give me empirical evidence suggesting short spammy fights leads to a base of bad players?
    Short spammy fights don't let you get to know your character's skill as well as longer, more dangerous ones. If one skill per player in a 8-man party is enough to finish a mob, you will simply just use that one to conserve mp or just to simplify things as people always choose the way of least resistance.
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