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    Quote Originally Posted by Endariel View Post
    The repositories for both act and the parsing plugin are both public.
    If you are are oh so concerned about data sniffing, you can check the code by yourself.
    But we both know you won't do it
    Wait... you did check the source code? And, what did you discover? Did you actually run your cmd to see what ACT is doing on your PC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    In this case you have to inspect the source code and then build the binaries by yourself. The binaries you can download can not be trusted because they can contain some other functionality that is not in the public source code.


    And no, this is not a tinfoil hat thing, it happened in the past:
    https://0x10f8.wordpress.com/2017/08...clipse-plugin/
    https://www.eclipse.org/org/press-re...y_bulletin.php



    Cheers
    Your are absolutely correct. Alas, I'm guilty myself of more often than not to download the precompiled packages rather than building from source unless there's an absolute necessity.
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    Packet capture uses a library known as Machina created by Ravahn, which is used by the FFXIV Act plugin, and a nodejs wrapper created by Karashiiro in order to read the packets sent by the FFXIV servers to your game when you're playing. This cannot be used to read your credentials, all the libraries used are Open Source and you have the links above if you want to read their code and make sure nothing wrong is done. It requires Teamcraft to be started as admin, in order to be able to get all required permissions to read network from another process.
    ACT just adding and displaying numbers from a combat log. Its not a tool for FFXIV alone. Its been used for EQ2, FFXIV, Rift, Age of Connan, Aion, Star Wars: TOR and The Secret World.

    This log will created by the ACT FFXIV plugin. This plugin will saves the combat log from the incoming network packages on your computer. But can also choose how this log were created. Either using package capture or reading the RAM. Not both.

    But neighter ACT nor FFXIV plugin will send data to someone else.

    To wrap this up:
    1. There is no known case where data were send data to someone else (spying) for several years and MMORPGs
    2. There is no evidence that personal data will sent to somewhere else. Running something on administrator rights doesnt proof anything
    3. You can check the c sharp code of the FFXIV plugin and ACT yourself
    4. Its none of your business, what programs are installed on other player's computers



    Quote Originally Posted by Endariel View Post
    The repositories for both act and the parsing plugin are both public.
    If you are are oh so concerned about data sniffing, you can check the code by yourself.
    But we both know you won't do it
    ^ this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    In this case you have to inspect the source code and then build the binaries by yourself. The binaries you can download can not be trusted because they can contain some other functionality that is not in the public source code.

    And no, this is not a tinfoil hat thing, it happened in the past:
    https://0x10f8.wordpress.com/2017/08...clipse-plugin/
    https://www.eclipse.org/org/press-re...y_bulletin.php
    Did you actually checked the code? Both are written in C#. Please tell me where other functionality is uncluded which is not public, because I m not finished through the entire githubs from both programs.
    From what i ve seen, all libraries include own written code or microsoft functionality.

    The links you ve posted are about a eclipse (java developing) plugin. Not ACT. And its from 2017. /shrug


    If you re so concerned about security, you should throw your iPhones away. And using Tor-Browsers and VPNs. And stop playing FFXIV, because SE may sell it to other companies. Mabye move to an empty island.
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    Last edited by Caitlyn; 08-03-2021 at 08:45 PM.
    - Queen of Heal 2022 -
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    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
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    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

  4. #374
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endariel View Post
    The repositories for both act and the parsing plugin are both public.
    If you are are oh so concerned about data sniffing, you can check the code by yourself.
    But we both know you won't do it
    "The ACT Parsing Plugin for Final Fantasy XIV

    This project is to track releases and issues for the ACT FFXIV Plugin. The source code is not currently public."

    Posted 7 months ago.

    I need guidance. How can I become as ignorant as you? Or maybe I am doing something wrong, it is possible, but usually, I would be more concerned about that option if I had more people sharing my opinion. In any case, ignorance is bliss. You just don't know and refuse to know the endless ways of how you can get screwed over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Did you actually checked the code? Both are written in C#. Please tell me where other functionality is uncluded which is not public, because I m not finished through the entire githubs from both programs.
    From what i ve seen, all libraries include own written code or microsoft functionality.

    I did not check the source code because i don't care about this software anymore.



    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    The links you ve posted are about a eclipse (java developing) plugin. Not ACT. And its from 2017. /shrug

    It was an example that there can be a disparity between public source code and binaries.


    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    I need guidance. How can I become as ignorant as you?
    And someone who is playing this game just for a few months is also an expert in security and c sharp development.
    I m pretty sure, the hate/fear just comes of having a bad experience with a player who used ACT incorrectly. Otherwise, you have proof, that ACT is sniffing data or something else.


    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    I did not check the source code because i don't care about this software anymore.
    Good.
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    Last edited by Caitlyn; 08-03-2021 at 09:01 PM.
    - Queen of Heal 2022 -
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulecrain View Post
    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
    Quote Originally Posted by Dicentis View Post
    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    "The ACT Parsing Plugin for Final Fantasy XIV

    This project is to track releases and issues for the ACT FFXIV Plugin. The source code is not currently public."

    Posted 7 months ago.

    I need guidance. How can I become as ignorant as you? Or maybe I am doing something wrong, it is possible, but usually, I would be more concerned about that option if I had more people sharing my opinion. In any case, ignorance is bliss. You just don't know and refuse to know the endless ways of how you can get screwed over.
    Hmm, yes, you are actually correct. Indeed the public repository is only for the plugins and localisation but not the program itself.
    I apologize for the misinformation.
    Nevertheless, the project exists for 14 years so i hope you take that in consideration of how trusted it is
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    Man I know this thread didn't get resurrected from freaking 2014 just for people to start fear mongering over a basic tool. Y'all got too much time on your hands.
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    And here we are, seven years later. And we still don't have better housing...eh...what was the topic about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juun View Post
    Probably been asked in this 37 page thread but what are parsers?
    parsers are programs that read combat data that gets generated by the game and compiles it in easier to understand numbers
    it is mainly used by extreme, savage and ultimate raiders because that content requires a certain amount of DPS to be hit consistently (in addition to mechanics, of course), which ACT can help with by visualising and logging rotations, casts and whatnot
    it's also used by, let's call them casual to midcore players, who use it to see their own performance and if they're improving or not

    it can be misused to bully people, but I've personally only seen it once in I don't know how many dungeons, trials and raids and other people's experience may vary there, but I don't think it'd a bad thing if it'd be added
    people are gonna be bullies with or without it, as repeatedly shown on the forum, in the game and in the community in general /shrug
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    Last edited by Rinhi; 08-03-2021 at 10:05 PM.

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