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  1. #341
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    Van Arn
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    Remember, because it's illegal you can call the police if you notice your neighbor pushing buttons in the right order.
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  2. #342
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcdistro View Post
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...5bd14ffec4345f

    Using third-party programs, parsers, or other tools to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game is a violation of the Terms of Service, and will be dealt with strict disciplinary action.
    About time!
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  3. #343
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalepsy View Post
    About time!
    That's what it's said since the game started, and they don't ban unless you start harassing people with it. Otherwise, the director himself has said it's okay just don't talk about it. So I don't know what you mean by about time, it's always said that (also notice that post is from 7 years ago).
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  4. #344
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalepsy View Post
    About time!
    Indeed, about time. About 7 years ago. (04/03/2014)
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  6. #345
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    That's what it's said since the game started, and they don't ban unless you start harassing people with it. Otherwise, the director himself has said it's okay just don't talk about it. So I don't know what you mean by about time, it's always said that (also notice that post is from 7 years ago).
    He actually did not say that. He said that he prefers that you not use them, but that it's currently on the honor system because it's difficult to screen your computer for third party tools, and they don't want to be that intrusive. He said that's subject to change at any time, though, and you're using them at your own risk. He said that posting someone else's DPS is considered harassment, regardless of whether you got it through a third party tool or not, and you will be penalized accordingly. You can see him say it right here: https://youtu.be/e_i6mjiGerU
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  7. #346
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    IMHO there is a bigger problem with tools like ACT. I wanted to use it but after i know how it works i don't want it anymore.


    ACT hooks into the FF14 process and then it reads informations directly from the memory claimed by the FF14 process. It can read literary every information which is stored in the FF14 process. Not only your combat log but propably also things like your character data and maybe your login credentials.


    For me it is way too risky to allow such things to a third-party-tool. It is really strange that SE doesn't use a protection to prevent this.


    Cheers
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  8. #347
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    Jhuno Whatt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    IMHO there is a bigger problem with tools like ACT. I wanted to use it but after i know how it works i don't want it anymore.


    ACT hooks into the FF14 process and then it reads informations directly from the memory claimed by the FF14 process. It can read literary every information which is stored in the FF14 process. Not only your combat log but propably also things like your character data and maybe your login credentials.


    For me it is way too risky to allow such things to a third-party-tool. It is really strange that SE doesn't use a protection to prevent this.


    Cheers
    Character details , and especially player account log in information is not held in RAM like some kind of temporary readable text file.


    There is no doubt that the developers responsible for SE security have , many years ago , studied popular tools such as ACT to check if it breaches security in anyway. Not only them but some of the community fluent in code especially in online security would have also done the same and if ACT was a data sniffer sending personal data to the owner it would have been flagged years ago.
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  9. #348
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    Caitlyn's Avatar
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    ACT hooks into the FF14 process and then it reads informations directly from the memory claimed by the FF14 process. It can read literary every information which is stored in the FF14 process. Not only your combat log but propably also things like your character data and maybe your login credentials.

    For me it is way too risky to allow such things to a third-party-tool. It is really strange that SE doesn't use a protection to prevent this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_i6mjiGerU

    That is actually not true. Like Yoshi-P said, it just reads the combat log and adding the numbers. You can do that by yourself using a calculator (which may take a few hours).
    Sorry to say this, but you fear something you dont understand.

    Login credentials cant be read, because they are used within the launcher and are not stored inside the game. Almost the same goes with the character data, but you will find such data easily on your lodestone page ; )

    And why should SE make a protection against ACT? And how?
    Adding a protection may cause huge installation or compatibility issues. Also, you have to add a protection against ANY third party software. And you may lose a big part of your playerbase.

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    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
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    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

  10. #349
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahil View Post
    Cool. I hope everyone that uses a parser is Parma banned
    I too hope that parsers will be Parma banned.
    It sounds like fun.
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  11. #350
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    Novae Ombreloup
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    Nercoing should be illegal too. Respect the dead please.
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