Please restrict carry runs

[Curisu]

Carry runs are against the ToS and therefore needs to be stopped.
And I don't talk about RMT, because that can not be proven.

How do you think someone gets carried through a ultimate? It is plain and simply account sharing and it is against ToS.
You just can't carry a dead weight through a current last savage raid or any ultimate.

[Wilford111]

I agree only one person can lessen the value of your own achievements and that's you

Other people can certainly help with that though lol

[NanaWiloh]

Other people can certainly help with that though lol

Jealousy can work the other way, Thou who already has can become jealous of thou who has just achieved.

[kaynide]

Carry runs are against the ToS and therefore needs to be stopped.
And I don't talk about RMT, because that can not be proven.

How do you think someone gets carried through a ultimate? It is plain and simply account sharing and it is against ToS.
You just can't carry a dead weight through a current last savage raid or any ultimate.

Carry runs are not against TOS. My wife carries my alts through almost all dungeons unsync’d.

I think what you mean is account sharing which is indeed against TOS. Two different things entirely.

Also Ultimate clear with 7 members, so carry is possible without breaking TOS.
(The third tank is being carried and eats it about 5 min in)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k4hnI5yKtZI

[Commander_Justitia]

Also Ultimate clear with 7 members, so carry is possible without breaking TOS.
(The third tank is being carried and eats it about 5 min in)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k4hnI5yKtZI

3x LB3 only during Bahamut phase, not sure how reliable that is.
I think most groups won't trouble themselves with that, if they can just have it easier with account sharing.

Sometimes there are people trying to sell PotD Solo 200 runs too... How can you sell something that only 1 person can do?

Anyway it is hard to enforce if the buyer is creating the market for it and willing to break ToS for it. VPN services are giving you fresh IP's and not always shared ones so they can't restrict them either really.
They could make it a requirement that sells are made ingame, but what would it matter? Gil is money too, they will just sell the gil if they want to.

You can try to make it hard to sell by making it more difficult to unlock it for example, clearing the savage complete raid tier on minimum itemlvl, so people can't jump directly into ulimtate. Content buyers would have to buy 5 clears instead of only just 1+"1 free unsynced duty". Or if the reward contains a rng grind step, maybe a rare personal drop, so you have to clear it more. But the issue with that is, you make the game (most likely) less enjoyable to the main playerbase.

I would encourage that GM's would add these guys on discord and ask what they are charging for it though :P If they already want to advertise in partyfinder with forced discord communication only, they can talk to a GM then on discord. FFXIV can perm ban you without reason, they don't have to mention that it was them on the discord, so "outside evidence" doesn't matter if they want to.

[Curisu]

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I don't mind carry runs for content were you can actually carry a dead weight.
Like primals for mounts, dungeon's or even DRS.
But these sellers are advertising carry runs for fights that are impossible to do with one person less.
So they have to break the ToS to do them.

I also don't want that this is getting as annoying as the carrys in WoW.
Now it is just a few but when they don't do something against it then it will become more.

[kaynide]

3x LB3 only during Bahamut phase, not sure how reliable that is.
I think most groups won't trouble themselves with that, if they can just have it easier with account sharing.

My point was if it becomes possible to do with dead weight, one can’t auto assume it’s RMT or account sharing.

Sometimes there are people trying to sell PotD Solo 200 runs too... How can you sell something that only 1 person can do?

Not really sure if this was directed at me, but I’ve said if it’s obvious it’s breaking the rules then yeah, report away.

I don't mind carry runs for content were you can actually carry a dead weight.
Like primals for mounts, dungeon's or even DRS.
But these sellers are advertising carry runs for fights that are impossible to do with one person less.
So they have to break the ToS to do them.

I also don't want that this is getting as annoying as the carrys in WoW.
Now it is just a few but when they don't do something against it then it will become more.

That was my point though; the only fight in the entire game that actually requires a full 8 man group to be on point is Alexander Ultimate. All other content either has been done low man, unsync’d, or requires a full 8 members for certain doors/switches only.



My stance is, tl;dr: I assume innocence until obvious guilt, then report. If you can’t be 100% sure, then it’s just conjecture.

Also maybe a clarification on terms: carry to me just means doing content where 1 member is being cleared by the group, regardless of the players actual participation. This includes account sharing which is bad, but also includes my naked butt clearing level 50 dungeons courtesy of my wife unsync’d.

[KageTokage]

Another thing I dislike about carries/clear selling is that they're sometimes performed in an underhanded manner where only the seller is actually making the arrangements and the rest of their static has no clue that a supposed "alt" of one of their static members is actually just them piloting someone's account so they can profit off of their efforts.

[Puremallace]

Huge sums of gil are made by crafters in this game so they might make it legitimately.

The carries are not for dungeons, but for the challenging versions of raids and trials.

I don't really see a problem if someone is carried. Who really cares what other people do? If they didn't do the mechanics properly and were dead the whole time they will have to carry that knowledge with them and it will bother them or it won't.

The problem is people buying gil. Just look at this games main competition to understand why this is a disaster and needs to be crushed into the ground. My only concern is people buying gil to pay for these. If this were WoW I would be more concerned with pay to win as having the pve gear gives you huge advantages in Arenas and Mythic cleears being used as a way to gatekeep people out of joining PUG groups.

The only concern I have is gil selling and if Square Enix things to sell a FF14 Token which will be my last day with this MMO.

[ReynTime]

Not surprised the same community that downplays the botting issue have people who think selling clears aren't an issue either.