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  1. #81
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Why do guys even care about run sellers ? wtf
    Multiple reasons.
    1. It is RMT
    2. The promoted services have to break the ToS
    3. It clutters the Partyfinder
    4. Reduces the value of special archivements.
    5. It will become as bad as in WoW.
    6. It is pay 2 progress and this is the 2nd worst thing after p2w.
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    Jin Wa
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    One good thing Blizzard did now is that you need to have max level character to post on hard content lfg so it reduces the adds.
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    Last edited by Jin-; 08-20-2021 at 05:15 PM.

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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll View Post
    For clarification to the folks discussing this - you cannot carry someone in an Ultimate fight. The buyer's account must be piloted by another player.
    This is factually untrue, but I do agree it is 99% what is going on.

    One ultimate has/can be cleared with 7 members, and the 8th member doesn’t necessarily have to be a noob/idiot player.

    Also, It is entirely possible for a player to have experience in the fight but not have the 7 other willing people to go with (scheduling, bad reputation, lack of friends/social skills).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Why do guys even care about run sellers ? wtf
    Kind of in line with Curisu, but it’s not really the run selling so much as the other bad behaviors that are associated, like cluttering the PF with advertisements, breaking ToS with RMT or account sharing.

    At least imho.
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  5. #85
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    It's also opening people up to being scammed in a myriad of ways, whether it be simply stealing the buyer's account info, not actually doing the carry after receiving the payment, etc.

    There's nothing to ensure that these people will do any of things they're claiming, and when I see them offering clears of PotD 1-200 and other content that requires a much more significant time investment then a savage/ultimate clear it makes me particularly suspicious.

    It would be better for SE to protect the gullible by not allowing these ads to exist at all.
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatNeos View Post
    The party finder is completely full of spam for dungeon carries- those are supposedly sold for ingame currency, gil. However, these amounts of gil are nearly impossible to obtain legitimately for new players, and if the players have that much gil they typically would use it on other things.

    A large portion of these carry runs are purchased with gil obtained through RMT, and then the players who do these runs turn around and sell the gil they obtained for real money through RMT.

    I have played many MMOs in the past, FF14 is by far the closest to perfection amongst all of them. Every single MMO where carry runs weren't restricted resulted in serious degradation of the game's integrity. On Maplestory 2 for example, rampant carry runs organised by people who were sponsored to play the game on twitch caused insane amounts of RMT gil to move, and augmented the botting problem to insane proportions.

    At the very least, make sure sponsored content creators do not partake in carry runs. Luckily I'm not aware of any content creators pushing carry runs, but its very important that it never happens in the future either.
    I stopped caring about that, because for SE as long as it's in-game money, it's service for money, it's like when you pay a cab in real life.

    As long as it's not for real money which is a case of RMT, SE won't do anything at all and still, for the cases of RMT, I've seen plenty that pass because it works on carry over.

    It's perfectly debatable I agree to allow some rich people to pay for a skin that the majority don't have. There is also the house decorations of people who have a house and have no taste for decoration. Yes you have a lot of people who have a house and don't know how to take care of it themselves.

    I've also seen cases where it was service vs. Mogstation's Gift (and sub gift), I'm not sure what SE thinks about it, but gifts are possible, but I think as long as the money goes into SE's pocket, they're usually fine.
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