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    Aelin_Ashryver's Avatar
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    No thanks, your minimum threshold for people getting their items from content sounds like nonsense and totally disregards those with disabilities. You've thought clearly of nothing but your own benefit with this suggestion and it shows.

    Further rewarding the top 1% is not healthy for the game either. We have enough exclusive things without giving every single piece of combat based content yet more 1% focused rewards. If someone is straight up afk refusing a rez, report that player and carry on your day. But I for one am not about to punish those players who do try their best but cannot keep up with content due to physical disability etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    No thanks, your minimum threshold for people getting their items from content sounds like nonsense and totally disregards those with disabilities. You've thought clearly of nothing but your own benefit with this suggestion and it shows.

    Further rewarding the top 1% is not healthy for the game either. We have enough exclusive things without giving every single piece of combat based content yet more 1% focused rewards. If someone is straight up afk refusing a rez, report that player and carry on your day. But I for one am not about to punish those players who do try their best but cannot keep up with content due to physical disability etc
    Hi, disabled person here. I agree with the OP's suggestion.

    The only thing I do not agree with in the OP is that instead of removing rewards, just give bonus rewards to those who are in that 80% threshold. Those in the 20% just get to keep the base rewards. Bad days happen and sometimes you are in that 20% range... irregardless of able status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    Hi, disabled person here. I agree with the OP's suggestion.

    The only thing I do not agree with in the OP is that instead of removing rewards, just give bonus rewards to those who are in that 80% threshold. Those in the 20% just get to keep the base rewards. Bad days happen and sometimes you are in that 20% range... irregardless of able status.

    Hi disable person here. I disagree with what they are saying.

    So we cancel each other out


    But in all serious though. The system is fine as it is. If you get a bad group full of leeches and can't do the content. Find a new group. Not that hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Hi disable person here. I disagree with what they are saying.

    So we cancel each other out


    But in all serious though. The system is fine as it is. If you get a bad group full of leeches and can't do the content. Find a new group. Not that hard.
    You're not going to work on me, Wavaryen. I know that you on purposely troll and flame people in these forums, other games forums (like WoW), and Twitter. At some point "your wife" will take over once you hit a certain post threshold.

    I am not going to engage you beyond this point. You can be entertained by others who are not aware of how you interact with people on these forums.
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    You're not going to work on me, Wavaryen. I know that you on purposely troll and flame people in these forums, other games forums (like WoW), and Twitter. At some point "your wife" will take over once you hit a certain post threshold.

    I am not going to engage you beyond this point. You can be entertained by others who are not aware of how you interact with people on these forums.

    So now you want to call someone a troll because you don't agree with them? Please don't engage with me. Because you are being childish, and I can't really stand people like you who can't disagree with someone without calling them a troll or something else. After going back and reading some of your posts. You are kinda doing me a favor to be honest.


    Pro tip for one disable person to another. It is hard to take you serious or the stance you have when you deflect so easily.

    Oh and the wife comment. She found this forum community boring and dull. So she stop posting. She said it was beneath her to be seen on this forum anymore. Worse part of the community. LMAO
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    "But think of the disabled people" is the go to "but I want to lick paint" excuse. A lot of disabled people do perfectly fine with difficult content.

    What's next? "I want it to be easy because I have anxiety!" ? "Think of the game journalists!" ?

    I mean they added Trusts with the thought of people having anxiety. So that example is not that good.
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    Last edited by Wavaryen; 07-27-2021 at 11:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    So now you want to call someone a troll because you don't agree with them? Please don't engage with me. Because you are being childish, and I can't really stand people like you who can't disagree with someone without calling them a troll or something else. After going back and reading some of your posts. You are kinda doing me a favor to be honest.

    Pro tip for one disable person to another. It is hard to take you serious or the stance you have when you deflect so easily.
    yeah yeah, don't feed the troll and all that, but the sheer irony of him of all people saying these sentences is hilarious
    because if you're not doing it on purpose, which is what I know think you're doing now after having read that:
    you have one extremely warped view of yourself and how you conduct yourself
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    yeah yeah, don't feed the troll and all that, but the sheer irony of him of all people saying these sentences is hilarious
    because if you're not doing it on purpose, which is what I know think you're doing now after having read that:
    you have one extremely warped view of yourself and how you conduct yourself

    I have not broke any rules of the forums, and I debate my stance and say I don't agree. It is not my fault some of you are overly sensitive to anyone who does not agree with you. I know this forums is famous for being an echo chamber of the worse parts of the community. Just some of you need to relax.


    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    Thinking most disabled players are struggling to even play the game feels pretty insulting and patronizing. Even if the intention wasn't harmful, don't use us for your agenda please.

    This comment right here. Like the person had good intent. Many disable people who do have problems with some of the fights play this game. Some disable people (like myself) can manage (but I can't do many raids back to back.) The point is, this game has these types. To turn it around on that person, when the heart was in the right place. Just proves a point.


    Yoshi-p says you will carry people and like it. If you vote kick them. You can get reported for it. So if that bothers some of you. Don't use duty finder.
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    Last edited by Wavaryen; 07-28-2021 at 12:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    No thanks, your minimum threshold for people getting their items from content sounds like nonsense and totally disregards those with disabilities. You've thought clearly of nothing but your own benefit with this suggestion and it shows.

    Further rewarding the top 1% is not healthy for the game either. We have enough exclusive things without giving every single piece of combat based content yet more 1% focused rewards. If someone is straight up afk refusing a rez, report that player and carry on your day. But I for one am not about to punish those players who do try their best but cannot keep up with content due to physical disability etc
    Being useless isn't a disability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    No thanks, your minimum threshold for people getting their items from content sounds like nonsense and totally disregards those with disabilities. You've thought clearly of nothing but your own benefit with this suggestion and it shows.

    Further rewarding the top 1% is not healthy for the game either. We have enough exclusive things without giving every single piece of combat based content yet more 1% focused rewards. If someone is straight up afk refusing a rez, report that player and carry on your day. But I for one am not about to punish those players who do try their best but cannot keep up with content due to physical disability etc
    But are you part of the people with disabilities to speak on their behalf?
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    Last edited by Endariel; 07-27-2021 at 11:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    No thanks, your minimum threshold for people getting their items from content sounds like nonsense and totally disregards those with disabilities. You've thought clearly of nothing but your own benefit with this suggestion and it shows.

    Further rewarding the top 1% is not healthy for the game either. We have enough exclusive things without giving every single piece of combat based content yet more 1% focused rewards. If someone is straight up afk refusing a rez, report that player and carry on your day. But I for one am not about to punish those players who do try their best but cannot keep up with content due to physical disability etc
    Few things here.

    why do people use people with disabilities as a weapon here, don't, you are worse then people insulting people with disabilities, don't use them for your agenda.

    The game has so few rewards for the 1%, most of the game is accessible to most players, you are making it sound like theres load of inaccessible rewards which isn't true.

    The game actually needs more rewards for the 10% and above, the midcore and above, give more players an incentive to keep at it with midcore content, for this they can't freeride as easy or at all.
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